I mean if some have made the break already then they could help the rest do the same. It would be interesting to see how they would do it.
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Itâs a good thing no one is suggesting that, isnât it?
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Hereâs what the Antis seem to have fear:
High Elves added to the game.
ALL/most Belf players IMMEDIATELY abandon the Horde, to go frolic with the ânewâ race, leaving the Horde virtually deserted. This huge imbalance affects BGs and other PvP venues, and the Horde eventually withers, as a faction.
It will be more likeâŠ
High elves added to the game.
ALL/most Belf players IMMEDIATELY abandon the Horde, to go frolic with the ânewâ race, leaving the Horde virtually deserted.
(Wait you just wrote that!)
{I know! Patience!}
Most of said frolicking deserters will pay for faction/race change( Cha-CHING ); a few of the wiser ones will simply make alts and prowl around, mostly in Goldshire on my server.
The Horde languishes.
A month, or so, passes.
An odd thing is soon noticed on these forums; threads will appear with the rather sheepish theme ofâŠ
refunds.
Slowly the prodigals will trickle back, poorer but wiser.
After another month or so, the balance will be pretty much restored.
The Alliance is pretty and fun and kinda nice to be in, for a while; relaxing almost.
But it ainât the Horde.
And it never will be.
From what I read, the sunwell being destroyed affected the elves of quelâdanil the least because as rangers they relied very little on arcane magic anyway. Plus they are close with the wildhammer dwarves, so shamanism could easily end up appealing to them.
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For the horde! For Quelâthalas! For the Sinâdorei!
You have touched my heart, Alfgerhgdfas.
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Thatâs really all you Antis have been doing.
Donât believe me? go check out the new Alliance-only mount.
Thatâs not really an anti helf thing, is it? Itâd be like me blaming helfers for every stupid suggestion people want added.
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I dont have a Horde toon at BfA level. Do they fight 7th Legion High Elves?
If so, how would player controlled High Elves be any different?
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No, they donât. Thereâs an island exped team I think, but the whole team arenât helfs.
Nightborne do infringe on Nightelves visually. The arguments youâve made can all be made between Night Elves and Night Bourne. The thing is⊠you feel that both of those are visually distinct enough for you because well⊠They are already playable and we of course have no say in them being altered any more to suit people on the alliance who may have felt slighted by the face this Race was createdâŠBut now that people are asking for equal treatment of something that you desire them not to have, itâs a problem. The only advantage you have is, that they are not playable yet.
Itâs hypocritical and really shallow. Ignoring all reason for them, just to suite the personal wants, and knowing full well your arguing something thatâs already happened. It has been expressed several times by people that they do see that Night Bourne and Night Elves are very much similar⊠and that is okay⊠but the mention of High Elves is a no go, despite the lore and evidence that they are a reasonable race to be made playable. The faction lines and identity has already been blurred. Youâve already been on the winning side of it. Just now it seem like hording a trophy and waving it in others faces and saying they canât have it.
I hope Alliance Quelâdorei prevail and become playble. I stand by them completely.
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With that Idea opens up the possible idea of High Elf Shamans.
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Not whole teams, but as part of the 7th Legion
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There would be no purpose behind having Shandris say this besides clueing in the player that Night Elves donât look kindly to those who use Arcane magic. This in conjunction with the fact that speaking with the Sentinels when searching for Mage trainers further instills this idea by saying Night Elves still donât trust them, and still hold them responsible for their past actions is evidence of this. The devs do not add in these dialogues for no reason, they are all intended narratives to paint a picture for the player.
But they do? In front of Suramar the Night elves pull pranks on the Blood elves regarding themes applying to Thalassian Elves in general. Ridiculing them for their reliance on the Sunwell, and their addictions to magic. Vareesa herself states that sheâs in shock that she is taking to the battle field among Night Elves of all races, many of the Kirin Tor guards literally emphasise that the grudges between the Elves makes the war between the Alliance and Horde pale in comparison. These themes are furthered heavily during the Suramar campaign.
The âelvesâ referred to by the Sentinels, and the Elves that had literally outcast the Night elven priest Moonspear for associating with the Highborne. The night elves that warned the Alliance races against the High elves and stressed their betrayal when the legion invaded. They are referred to collectively as apposed to individual instances of Night elves getting along with High elves. You can downplay this narrative all you want, but it doesnât make it any less relevant and compelling.
Itâs Blizzard? Youâve done nothing to actually substantiate any of your claims, and refuse to actually cite any evidence that supports the claim that Night Elves see High elves any differently than they have for the thousands of years theyâve been seperated. But yes keep trying to pretend itâs headcanon.
Iâm literally quoting the Warcraft Encyclopedia that clearly states that after the third war many high elves returned to the Alliance and were treated coldly by the traditional races after the night elves essentially trash-talked them after joining the alliance. Also there has NEVER been any official numbers stating how many high elves came from where, so thatâs largely just conjecture but irrelevant none-the-less.
Even if the number of high elves that joined the alliance after the third war was small, itâs hardly the point. The point was that at that time the Night elves were actively against the high elves in the Alliance, and used their past and involvement in the war against the legion to paint them in a bad light to the alliance races. Thatâs not something you do to a race youâve fully forgiven and want to reunite with.
It being in Classic doesnât make it any less relevant.
My original âassertionâ was that the idea that the High elves joining the Night elves fitting better than them returning to Quelâthalas with the Blood elves being ridiculous considering the examples that show their many differences and cultural clashes in-game.
And what does this have to do with High elves? This seems like the highborne as an individual group have earned themselves more respect among the Night Elves due to their actions independantly; are you suggesting that because of this that the High elves are now also seen in the same light? Where were all the High elves exactly when the Horde was attacking Teldrassil? The point is that Night Elves are weary and distrustful of the high elves, and nothing has happened between them enough to merit âimprovingâ relations to the point where theyâd reintergrate back into Night elven society.
Because those quests have nothing to do with their relations with the high elves, and relate directly to the Highborne individually. The problem is that the High elves represent the very things Night elves despised them for, and have done very little to redeem themselves in recent years unlike the Highborne who have dedicated themselves to helping the Night Elves. Thereâs a reason why there were no High elves present, or any military force to help them against the Horde.
It just sounds like you trying to conflate two seperate concepts that have little to no relation to the actual point as your only crutch in the conversation. And with no real foot to stand on you resort back to âthat was so long agoâ like the Night elves donât have a habit of holding grudges for thousands of years.
Which does not relate to relations with High elves at all. The only reason Highborne were mentioned were to demonstrate that their similarities with the High elves were the reason the Night elves did not trust them, and were even initially hostile toward them. The Higborne as an independent group have made great strides and efforts to prove themselves in Night elven society, but this has no bearing on their relations with High elves individually.
The problem is youâre lumping âhighborneâ together as if the actions of one group reflect on them as a whole. The Highborne that reside among the night elves are not the same as the High elves who have resided with the Alliance. Those âhighborneâ made deliberate moves to better their standing in Night Elf society while High elves have very loose associations with night elves and are not as concerned with improving their relations with them. Vareesa was even shocked that she was sharing a battelfield with them despite blood elves being stationed right beside them.
Have you seen the fanart of Nozdormu in that really long kilt?
HAWT!
So basically High Elf Shamans that look like Nozdormus.
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Thereâs no 7th Legion helf mobs, as part of invasions or anything if that is what youâre asking.
Gotta say it: you are really scared of this becoming a thing, arenât you?
Your arguments and all-out PASSION are incredible!
Admit it: this is more than just a game, to you.
MUCH more.
ALLIANCE HIGH ELVES FTW!
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