High Elf Allied Race Megathread (Continuation)

Understand how sarcasm feel?

I have no idea what you are trying to communicate.

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Then i don’t need to continue. I will be done with you.

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Okay, you’re not trying to communicate. Gotcha.

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Blizzard’s wrong.

This whole thread is about that, too, but on another matter.

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Then I apologize.
I didn’t read the one where they said they’d have to remove a race, at least I don’t think so. Sounds familiar tho. Maybe if I had I’d have caught the sarcasm. I’m usually pretty good at catching it, not always but often.

It’s not they are fictional Elves in a video game.

Go ahead and ask for them. They are nowhere near as integrated as the High Elves are in the Alliance.

And they already have humans in the form of Forsaken.

If being opposite sides to a story count’s then sure. Just means they have more reason to not be seen as the same thing.

Literally the logic you where using.

In that case all Elves are Classic Elves and thus it’s not a major consideration.

When you reduce it down that much it’s not that important. When you focus on the detales Void Elves don’t count.

Still the same logic as you.

I responded to the other stuff she said. I broke it up for easier reading,

He’s a Half Ogre.

This is about using the models.

By whose rules? It’s a unique Alliance only Frame.

Good luck finding a group or support for that one. I merely pointed out that Ogres using the Kul Tiran Model where most likely.

By being on opposite sides. Thus different.

You are ignoring the fundamental reasons for those conflicts.

Not do the degree of Blood Elves thanks to their relation to the sunwell.

They are clearly visible in appearance and lore.

You just want to pretend they don’t exist because makes your entire argument bunk.

This is not a rule.

They have other appearances. Heck the Highvale where fighting Forest Trolls and Forsaken.

What Ion said is headcanon now? lol

So you finally acknowledge there was a split and they are different groups? Now we are getting somewhere.

If there was a split, then it is different histories after the split.

High Elves weren’t betrayed by Garitose. They had broken apart from Silvermoon and thus the Blood Elves before that happened.

Funny how their histories are different after the split.

Why do you think they wanted to kill them in the first place?

Different histories again.

Except we know there was a Blood Elf Civil War and a Wretched Epidemic. That cost them a lot so the entire 9 times thing no longer applies. That’s why Blizzard doesn’t use it anymore.

Either Way, High Elves are 14-20% the size of the Blood Elf population. That’s more then enough to matter.

And it still means nothing that there are more Blood Elves then High Elves because it doesn’t erase their existence or any of the other groups.

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No, you just are. The official war ended, it just turned into how it was pre-Cataclysm until BfA.

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saying you want playable alliance high elves due to how you see them in the story, their lore, that earns a measure of respect and is understandable. but agitating primarily for a light skinned, blonde haired majestic elf comes across as shallow. it is desire that exists because this group wants to play that aesthetically pleasing elf in the similarly pleasing (to them) aesthetic of the alliance. anyone can see this

ion even called it out when he said “if you want to be a light skinned majestic elf, sorry. the horde is waiting for you”

i cant say this enough it seems, the sole difference between a blood elf and a high elf is political. it was initiated in an ideological schism a mere thirteen years ago in game, but that ideological issue was rendered moot with the restoration of the sunwell. as blood elves are high elves, high elves are playable

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Good thing High Elves on the Alliance are very well supported. Considering they exist on the faction and have helped fight in its battles.

Show me any other NPC race that consistently supports the Horde with such fervor throughout multiple expansions.

Ogres? One time in Cata, wow so much. High Elves had to be called in by Halduron because his forces alone weren’t enough.

Wrath of the Lich King? Silver Covenant in full swing for Alliance. Where’s the Horde equivalent NPC race?

TBC? Look at all those High Elves at Allerian Stronghold supporting the Alliance and hating the Blood Elves. Where’s the Horde equivalent NPC race?

MoP? The Purge really showcased the hate that Silver Covenant, and by extension most High Elves, have for the Blood Elves. “Allowing pilgrimages” be damned, they didn’t care that’s for sure. Still waiting on the Horde equivalent NPC race.

Draenor? Probably not much High Elf ness here, but not any Horde equivalent NPC race in sight either.

Legion? High Elves stepping up again alongside Alliance, even getting a callout by one of the big baddies, Elisande. Hm, where’s that Horde equivalent NPC race participation? Still zero.

BFA? We have a few High Elves helping in a Warfront and one part of the Alliance Island expedition team, these teams which are

Jeremy Feasel: interesting members of the opposing faction to fight.

Wow and what do we see on the Alliance side, a High Elf.

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Which was… a War between the Alliance and Horde.

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The main thing I want to point out here is, High Elves exist on the Alliance. They’re simply unplayable. All people are asking for is to make them a playable option for the Alliance.

And the reason to request them doesn’t need to be any more than “because I would like to play an unplayable race on my faction”.

That’s what pretty much every Allied Race request is. Some are not though, some ask for races not even part of the Horde or Alliance proper.

High Elves are Alliance proper.

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If you mean by war like the Cold War where it was a long period of tension between the two that was locked to just skirmishes…then yes.

But the actual war between the Alliance and Horde did not begin until the Wrathgate when Varian declared war on the Horde.

Now Lavinya, why would Varian declare war if he was already at war with the Horde?

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you have 4 for the whole expansion. they are just props to reflect the small and only lore we have about alliance high elves; that a few exist

even the sunreavers are getting spotlight in bfa, while the SC who only came about to defy the sunreavears are nowhere to be found. while they cant fight the horde in a silver covenant uniform, they can in a 7th legion one but none even bother to back up jaina… were they wiped out in legion?

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Because they had a ceasefire to fight the scourge together?

That is my case.

That is never my case.

You are trying to pretend it’s my case to make it seem shallow.

In the old forums I used to counter this exact quote by having a page of me quoting myself “Make them tan!” and “Make them buff/gritty!”

I’m always linking this https://wow.gamepedia.com/Devi to show Dark Skin is an option.

You can go through this thread and see I prefer the tan models people are suggesting.

You on the other hand are always bringing up the Light Skin and have even gone to say it’s a core theme of the Blood Elves. Your arguments are always tilted to the fact that all you see both groups as is “Pretty Elf”.

So quit pretending to be on some sort of High Ground.

You can look at the OP at see it’s clearly not the case.

Dark Skin, Warpaint, and Grittier Hairstyles are the top request.

Also saying all we want is a “Pretty Elf” is ridiculous when Night Elves and Void Elves look better then Blood Elves anyway…

Might be why I’m so open to using the Night Elf model… Heh…

Because it’s not true. And it’s clear you don’t really respect Blood Elf lore if you don’t accept what makes them special or unique.

All you care about is “Pretty Elf”

The schism started 30 years ago and got wider and wider. And is continuing to widen.

Those differences are still there. And they are killing each other for it.

One of a few types.

Not the type we want.

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No because they werent officially at war.

Here is the thing, no one is arguing that high elves don’t help the alliance, but its assistance is largely to oppose blood elves, who are high elves.
There is also the fact they are the same race as blood elves, which means they woulkd be an exact copy. Which means there is no need if blood elves fill that niche.
There are also void elves who are the alliance twist variant of blood elves. So tht would make them redundant and unnecessary.

There is much more opposing them than what supports them.

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Hey you leave the hawkstriders alone. They are closest things we are ever going to get has chocobos

I’d ride the hell out of these. Unfortunately they gave up on making any new ones.

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I dunno what you call two political powers fighting against one another in multiple fronts other than a war.