So… does that trinket even exist? My raid has killed Heroic Denathrius every week for 3 months and we have yet to see it drop. Feels bad man.
cloaks have like a 60percent drop rate weapon and trinkets like 1percent blizz game bad
i dont see the hype behind said trinket, it’s pretty bad looking in my eyes
…past being a giant statstick for intellect/str/agi
I’ve seen it drop once on our first kill and a healer got it for an off-spec that’s basically non existent and later quit the guild Hope you get it soon!
I have one on my DK, my DH, and my Mage lmao
It’s my BiS, lol.
I hate you
I’ve gotten it out of my vault 3 times now. But does it ever give me a weapon? NO IT DOES NOT!
You’d be better off with Heraldry and a high Anima Battery/Wakener’s Frond or Hateful Chain honestly. Hunters get much better on-uses for their damage profile, especially if you plan on going MM.
was about to say this
unless bm is vastly diff from MM, you want heraldry and that WQ frond item
I had 3 weeks in a row of my vault giving me numerous denathrius options
I’ve seen 3 weapon tokens, trinket, ring, and I think even the helm.
One week was like weapon token Vs trinket but my m15 reward was better
On my first Heroic kill he dropped it for my guild.
I didn’t win it
Dropped on my first heroic Sire kill
I only play BM.
And I have heroic Heraldry in my bags but I only use it on certain bosses.
Versatility is not good for BM.
So I did a bit of research (and included some of my own sims for reference) and Dreadfire is actually pretty good, but these sorts of damage-based instead of stat-based trinkets tend to be a bit awkward to work with depending on your ilvl. These damage proc/damage on-use trinkets tend to be atrocious at low item levels but quickly scale extremely well as their item levels increase.
You’d most likely see a similar trend on Bloodmallet, even though I always take that site with a huge grain of salt since it tends to isolate each trinket. The gaps between Normal, Heroic, and Mythic versions of that trinket are utterly enormous (they’re ever-increasing intervals of 1% per ilvl bracket) while Heraldry, as a stat stick, is much milder on that front. Same deal with stat-based ones like Anima Battery versus damage procs/on-uses!
For reference: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jfGzTYdVw5BAWkbG7ViNF
(I have MUCH better gear than you and am Night Fae and not Venthyr. I also play MM first and foremost so a lot of my gear might not be too terribly well-optimized)
Dreadfire’s got a lot of usage on logs but while 220 Heraldry pops up pretty often among BM Hunters there are virtually no 220 Dreadfires or 213 Memories whatsoever among high-performing BM Hunters. They’re all 233/226, which checks out because that’s historically how these sorts of trinkets have scaled.
So honestly, if you’re doing what you’re doing I think you might be better off doing either 226 Memory (when you kill Inerva; I know you’re 3/10M atm) or a Valor-upgraded 220 IQD or Anima Battery over a 220 Dreadfire Vessel except on something like Sludgefist, though there are obvious exceptions.
If you’ve got other Heraldries in your party I think I’d 100% go for that in the vast majority of situations, or at the very least do Heraldry+Dreadfire over Dreadfire+Chain. Hateful Chain is a pretty misleading trinket except in specific situations, kinda like IQD but less incredible at its peak and less lackluster at its trough.
But the TL;DR? It’s still a great trinket, but it might not give you the results you’re expecting because of how much better the Mythic version is than the Heroic one.
That’s because it never drops
But in all seriousness, I usually use my 207 Dreadfire with 213 Chain because they sim the highest out of all the trinkets I have (I also have 213 Memories in my bags), but I use Heraldry on some fights when other people in my group also put it on. It doesn’t seem worth it on its own.
It does indeed. I got it
After 5-7 kills on Heroic Denath I literally got NOTHING off his drops.
The only loot I got from his was through Vault or Trading.
I’ve been in the same boat about Manabound Mirror. We’ve seen 4 Cabals, and 6 or 7 Dreadfires… 0 Mirrors.
Hopefully we both see the one we need drop soon!