Hellscream, Garrosh

i don’t think that is how the Arbiter works.

but i believe the Bronze dragons could pull Garrosh out before he got killed by Thrall in that Mak’Gora that ended with Thrall using his elemental power to “Punish” him.

after pulling him out i guess they can give him the proper punishment in Azeroth how it was meant to be before that bronze dragon and that Wrathion had a hand on his situation.

just saying.

i also suppose they could do something about Arthas as well and create a time line where he instead of picking that damn cursed sword he can win the fight properly without the power of death…

also…

you know what?? how about we don’t do any of that and just accept that Garrosh and Arthas are gone.

i don’t care if blizzard want to bring Ysera back because of :woozy_face: reasons…

seriously… just let Garrosh and Arthas alone accept their fate and for the love of god Blizzard stop pulling Ysera stuff, at least give a more logical reason to bring her back than “it was not her time” like come on man, seriously? :expressionless: :face_with_diagonal_mouth:

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I just can’t accept Garrosh is gone for good

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"In countless potential timelines, he (Garrosh) was seen as a great hero to his people. Some called him the Horde’s greatest warchief. What you saw here was one of his worst possible incarnations. A waste. " - Anachronos

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See just imagine it though

If THAT Garrosh was supposed to be the worst, and he was basically the best character the WoW team ever made, every other Garrosh would basically nullify the existence of every other character based on their greatness

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Literally this like not every villian needs to be a Darth Vader and redeem themselves in the end and honestly I hate it when it does happen.

Like I LOVE Arthas as a VILLIAN a redemption arc would just absolutely ruin him as one of my favourite Villians in fantasy.

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like seriously? my biggest dissapointment in Shadow Lands was that they didn’t bring him back as a minion to Zoval (or what ever his name was) and then have him do a lot of damage around the shadow lands as a form of distraction to get to og arbiter.

having Arthas play out as the Boss of the second Raid and just have Sylvanas play out the main boss of the first raid.

having her get capture and being put through the Revendreth treatment and make her realised what was she doing wrong all this time.

like seriously? her main reason for doing all she did was out of anger of how unfair thing have been for her, i mean she even tried to convince her sister to kill garrosh with poison when her sister had a chance to do it in the books.

her whole reason to join Zoval was because everything was unfair to her.

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Honestly I can’t picture Garrosh even listening to Zovaal

The very first thing he did when he was free’d was nuke one of his minions, he’d probably break a few necks as he left the place

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Honestly that could very well work but not with Arthas as the second raid boss would see it more accurate for his character that he would betray Zovaal and succeed at doing so only playing along and using him the whole time.

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Bring back both Garrosh and Varian. This game needs masculine warrior types in the story. Should give the game the balls it needs unless the writers fumble the return (which is likely to happen).

In my opinion. Sanctum would have been the Jailer fight instead of Sylvanas, as he would have gotten imprisoned there. Sylvanas would have been at the place of the jailer because she actually was the one since the start that wanted to changed reality. Arthas would have been there instead of Anduin with Sylvanas exacting her revenge on him by using him as a minion. You liberate him and he repents in the maw.

That’s been my tinfoil hate theory about Shadowlands and they switched it so Sylvanas could survive.

AU Varian gets to have cool sawblade hands in the next patch at least

They did my boy dirty by having an AU Gul’dan smoke him. I’ve ALWAYS hated that. Just bring him back like they did green dragon lady like you said.

Garrosh is rightly dead and gone, if not by his own hands then by the hands of 25 of us because we’re not suffering that moron a second time.

Went out better than Vol’jin at least, bodied a fel reaver and some fel guards before the big bad himself had to end him

Voljin got poked and died

No need to project

All Garrosh did was almost get the Horde obliterated and caused an internal civil war to depose him. He was a crappy leader all the way back in Wrath when he decided he’d just knock down the Lich King and Saurfang had to remind him what ‘logistics’ and ‘reality’ were.

When you’re incompetent and belligerent enough to get Cairne to decide to duel you to the death, you are a grade-a garbage individual.

What did I just say

Ah, the old racist moron who got himself killed because he heard and orc was there and blamed Garrosh

Sure was smart to keep someone trying to kill him living next door and then let them “bless” his opponents weapon and not think to warn Garrosh at all about it!

Great leader

that would have been even better and then have him be the final boss, us trying to stop him because he want to basically restart the univers and have Uther be the lead on the raid helping us put a stop to him sense Uther feels responsible for Arthas fall and becoming the Lichking.

we even had a questline that pretty much explain why Uther already felt responsible, they could have gone with that and basically have the redemption fall to Uther sense he was the one that deny Arthas his judgement by the Arbiter.

just saying, Zooval did not felt like a final boss for Shadow Lands to me, they could have made it so Arthas was the final boss basically trying to end it all.

by the end have him share the same fate as Sylvanas.

stuck in the Maw searching for every innocent soul that landed there and have him become the new Jailer in the Maw, not deserving of redemption but facing his punishment for all he did under Zooval and all he did after betraying Zooval.

just saying, Sylvanas in my honest opinion got off easy.

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He was bad at managing the Horde’s affairs, bad at maintaining the integrity of the Horde, and under his watch Alliance forces were able to march into Orgrimmar en masse. Guy had to bail into an alternate timeline just to have a ghost of a chance and screwed up even then.

The only reason Garrosh could possibly have been the best Warchief the Horde had ever seen in those other AUs is because they must have been SSP Minecraft servers, because the moment he goes up against anyone who isn’t completely stupid he gets his forces annihilated and sent packing with his tail between his legs.

Time is a weird thing to mess with. Who’s to say that the AU was not meant to be and what happened was destined to happen?

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bring back garrosh you say? well, you get my vote for ‘best use of bronze dragon magic’!!

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