Just adding another sentence a week later…
I posted this on your original post almost a week ago and since this is the same post I’ll just leave this here.
Just adding another sentence a week later…
I posted this on your original post almost a week ago and since this is the same post I’ll just leave this here.
What’s funny is unlike Heirlooms, Cata BoEs actually really screwed up PvP, because they were more powerful than ICC25H gear (and also because Cata greens had the same budget as epics). As an example, a level 78 cata green boe has an ilvl of 278. Cata JC could make level 79 blue boe rings with an item level of 300, 16 ilvls higher than RS25H gear.
So what happened is in the 75-79 bracket, there’d be your regular leveling ppl in their weak Northrend quest gear (mostly 138-154 ilvl gear and BC gear), and then twinks in full 272-300 ilvl blue and green Cata boes, with >5x the HP and 10x the damage. They were literally one-shotting everyone else, even ppl in Heirlooms. This was also never fixed, lasting until the WoD stat squish.
But I doubt OP considers that a problem, since he’ll prob be doing just that with Cata Classic.
If they had restricted the number of heirlooms someone could wear, that would’ve made a HUGE difference. Max of three heirlooms, slot restrictions, basically “supplemental gear so experienced players aren’t fighting new players for items” would’ve been ideal.
Omg, cata boe’s were crazy, you could get them super early and just destroy things.
there’s already only like 4 you can get, 5 if you happen to win the fishing event, so why restrict it to only having 3 of them?
Well, if people weren’t jackasses charging 100s of gold for basic greens and if we had RDF to actually get blues early on people wouldn’t necessarily need heirlooms.
Quite a pickle.
But again, the devs want us to experience the “Social” aspects of the game. Aren’t we having fun?
Then they added transmogs, making BoE greens worth a small fortune (even with crappy stats.)
Yeah. Every low level green boe went from basically pennies on my realm to hundreds if not thousands overnight once Transmog dropped.
I didn’t have any issues competing in my ICC H gear with people in Cata Greens, the set bonsues really offset the higher item level, i didnt replace it till i think 82/83
low level pvp? lol
oh boo hoo, people aren’t buying your overpriced leveling items anymore. you were being scummy to begin with for selling leveling items for hundreds of gold.
this isn’t ruining any experience for anyone. if they have heirloom gear they’ve already experienced getting random drops.
I’m talking about leveling bgs for the 75-79 bracket. Folks in their Northrend/BC greens got destroyed by Cata BoE “twinks.”
Yea, and? That gear was on the AH was really really easy to get, and really really cheap
I think Heirlooms were a dumb idea because they devalued dungeon items in those slots like the ravager or raging berserkers helm and Tusken Helm.
It also looked kind of silly to be partially decked out in this stuff at level 15.
But, I doubt they’ll be removed, just don’t use them and take it in solace that you’re more likely to win rolls on the gear in those slots now.
if you care about your rpg experience
dont use them
The experience of a person getting their first green/blue is intact. You can’t buy Heirloom gear until max level.
Low level pvp isn’t real, unless you are talking about twinks then there are better gear options than heirlooms anyway.
Heirlooms made leveling alts actually fun. I hate questing but all of a sudden I saw the levels just fly by
Early WOTLK I pvp’d with no heirlooms because no one had them yet and it was a fun way to level up. There are no twinks in wrath you level up from playing so how do you twink? The worst “twinks” are people with full heirloom xD
There are twinks in wrath, they are just in their own brackets.
PVP leveling is a joke and a bad rationalization for removing heirlooms.
The amount of people who will be upset about heirlooms in low level pvp will be drastically outnumbered by the many who will enjoy them questing and running dungeons. Probably 100 to 1.
Your not pvping at 80 in heirlooms anything before that is irrelevant as far as balance goes… Therefore doesn’t matter.