Healing without addons

I healed through half of Naxx 40 with no add-ons as a pally with no issues.

I use Shadowed Unit Frames and Clique. They’re basically the same thing as stock unit frames and mouseover macros except with SUF the unit frames are vastly superior in looks and information as well as highly customizable. Clique is super easy to assign keybinds to spells, and not just heals.

I have to agree with this. Some people find mouseover macros useful, but it’s not necessary. This is one of those things everyone reads that they have to do to be a “good healer”, but everyone’s playstyle and habits are different. So what works for one person would totally screw up another. In fact both Classic and Retails top healers have a wide variety of addons, macros, or lack thereof, and they all do well.

UX in the house!!

Mouseovers work fine. I use VuhDo just because it’s highly customizable but you can heal with mouseover macros with it as well. I just like the amount of information it gives me with things I need to cleanse, when buffs wear off, how long my HoTs have etc.

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Aura bars are the little buff bars that show up above/under the targeted unit frame, google images has many examples.

I have a couple extra addons not related to actual gameplay but I like ElvUI because it’s all-in-one

Oh well yea default UI shows those. You’d only need an addon if you don’t like how it looks.

A lot.

All of the people telling you that you can do fine without them are not technically wrong, but “do fine” totally ignores the difference that add-ons make in your performance.

Yes, you can do raids without add-ons, or you can use add-ons and be better.

A good healer is a healer that feels good about themselves… apparently.

But according to your logs, you need your hand held through fights.

46th percentile on average.

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If you think addons make a bad player good, and logs tell the whole story, then I don’t even know what to say to you.

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Of course not. However, the 58 HPS on your best Onyxia log tells me enough.

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What is that ranking based on? Is it effective healing for the fight?

addons let you see if others are already casting a heal on that person so you can optimize mana usage and healing throughput

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100% this. The blizzard raid frames are excellent and you can even set up your mouseover macros to use modifier downranks.

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Quote where I said that.

At most, I’ve said that add-ons help you heal better, because they do.

Logs tell me every aspect of combat.

It shows me when a person starts casting, how much they are moving, where they are standing, what gear they’re wearing, what talents they have, who they are targeting, etc.

Logs do tell the whole story. Now if you want to argue that a low parse doesn’t make the healer bad, I’d agree. A good raid actually takes less damage and thus healers parse much worse.

However, you don’t get 46th percentile on average by being a good healer or being in a good group.

For example, their fastest Shazzrah kill was 3:11. There’s plenty of time to do tons of healing in a Shazzrah fight that long.

Yet their highest parse on that fight is 27th percentile.

Yes. It doesn’t measure overhealing. Essentially your overall healing divided by fight length.

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Most of my logs are private since our guildie who does them keeps it that way. Last night I was ~90-95% percentile for most fights that actually required healing. But I say logs don’t tell the whole story because there was one I was low, only because I was assigned to one specific tank who didn’t take much damage, and only minimal spot healing was needed on the rest of the raid since the raid healers were doing their job as well. Or our Ony fight I died at the start due to the now fixed aggro mechanics that we were all trying to get used to, so my log for last night’s Ony is low. So if you’re just looking at the ranking, you are missing a lot of vital information.

The only public logs I have are from an old guild with an entirely different manner of running MC/Ony. Aside from a different raiding style there, most of the few raids I did with them, they messed up the logs due to various technical issues and the logger just forgetting things, not to mention we often went with too many healers so I didn’t have much to heal most of the time (and neither did most of the other healers).

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That’s the way I always healed, from vanilla to BFA and I’ve always been competitive. As long as you pay attention to the frames you’re good to go.

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3:09 Leiloni.

Oct 21, 2019

Patch 8.2.5 Hotfixes - November 8, 2019

  • Corrected an issue that was causing Onyxia to fail to clear the threat of the primary target of her Fireball ability.
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Last night’s log isn’t posted publicly. I’m not sure why that’s so hard to understand.

This is also off topic because you don’t have a good argument for why the default raid frames aren’t perfectly suitable for any good healer to use. Personal attacks are a sign of a poor argument when you’ve got nothing better to say.

Oh, so you have even more gray parses on Onyxia?

Eeeeee.

That’s the only argument I need.

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The log you’re looking at had about 15 people die before me. It was clearly a bad run, and one I frankly don’t even remember. I don’t know anyone who does a clean Ony. I do know that most people are still trying to figure out Ony’s spaghetti code mechanics and nobody is sure the best way to fight her.