Not really. The scaling past 20 is crazy. The scaling for pretty much every level past 20 is like the same as between 15 and 20. You need lot of practice for every level and not everyone is willing to go thru that pain. If the scaling would be more linear people would keep doing it i’m pretty sure of that.
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Love how it’s always the end of the world if a healer EVER has to play the video game and not get carried.
These are literally the same people crying about this affix because they refuse to play the game.
Pugging keys as Shadow this week, in my experience healers aren’t handling the affix at all unless you prod them to do it - I usually have 2-4 times the dispels on the spirits, often having to double Purify. Half of them aren’t specced into their non-magic dispel.
The reason the expectation is that the healers do it is that their globals are the lowest value in most cases when it comes to completing the dungeon faster. When I am using my GCDs to dispel during voidform so that my resto shaman can tunnel applying flame shock and getting lava bursts out (or just not use GCDs at all), the group is losing time.
Then go above 20 so that these people are filtered out. Simple as.
If healers could keep the group up through these without issue dps wouldnt care how long they took to die because they would just cleave them.
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somehow i find this quite funny considering it is a disc priest
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It depends on the thrash pack and especially on the boss and on the group. I have covered most of the affix on every key I did this week but during boss times especially I have found covering them all is extremely dangerous. Because in between having to keep doing 65k hps or higher on near all bosses, moving, dpsing and actually hoping GCD locking myself when they spawn won’t kill anyone in that 3 seconds I can’t heal it’s not easy.
I imagine on tyranical week I will have to call out beforehand for help for it will simply be too risky.
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I highlighted a word there to highlight what you could stop doing in the event you need to cleanse or heal the spirit. It’s also what DPS and tanks have to do when they handle it!
And that’s not to say they shouldn’t be handling it, btw, it’s just funny how often I see rsham specifically let mechanics of all kinds, not just Afflicted, go by the wayside because lava burst lit up on their action bar.
It’s the mentality that is pushed not only in mythic plus but mythic raiding of healers having to maximize their dps. In reality that is only really relevant in 20 plus keys and in late mythic raiding bosses. DPSing obviously helpes but personally I always let myself get to know the dungeon or raid first and be comfortable with the group I’m in before I seriously try to dps.
And I ditch dpsing the second I feel like to focus on heaing. If a dps is doing 300k on aoe…It’s more important they stay alive to do that 300k then I try to spam CL and do 30-60k myself most of the time.
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I ranted a lot but after filling my group without ANY class that can’t dispell, my life got easier. This affix is the dumbest thing ever invented and I feel sorry about classes who can’t play it.
But I won’t make my life harder. I just fill my group with meta classes. Blizz clearly never tested this crap.
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Two spawns, 10 seconds and a dispell with laughable cd.
If anything happens that overlaps with that it’s gg.
I haven’t invited any WL this week and it was a wise decision. If you can’t bring any dispell, you won’t get an invite this week…
You’re making it sound so awful, and yet multiple times this week I’ve solo handled a double spawn as the tank. If a healer is too afraid to play this week then they’re probably not very good.
Plenty of people are getting invites without a dispel. Thinking you need 5 players to handle something that can be done by 1, generally handled consistently by 2, and super safely by 3, means that you have no idea what you’re doing.
I’m not being facetious, I have no idea what that screenshot is supposed to illustrate.
I don’t hate it. I specced into decurse and just use instant heals. Bonus points if someone else in my group helps out with them.
I don’t know if most healers are newer to the role but the past 3 affixes are a cake walk compared to bursting and necrotic.
Here: Gunfighter#11206. PVP is dogwater this season, I’ll probably start trying to push some keys out of lack of better things to do, wouldn’t mind finding some regulars to play with. We’ll see how rare healers are.
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Hunters and warlocks are the 2nd and 3rd most represented dps classes this week despite neither having a tool for afflicted.
Dps warriors have more rep this week than mages, Druids, shamans, monks, and evokers (5 classes that can help with afflicted).
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And? Won’t invite them they bring 0 utility. Timed all my keys this week with Pala,monk, sham and declined hunter,warrior,… instantly
And? It’s already well established that you have no idea what you’re talking about. Smarter people than you are taking the classes you’re decking instantly, as shown by the numbers.
I had a challenging BH 21 today. The DPS really struggled to kill the totems on time, I believe they killed a total of three over the course of the fight, so I am glad it was fortified or they probably would have gotten zero. Healing through x3 stacks of the debuff was rough, but on the bright side we timed it with a whole 1 second to spare lol.
I envy organized groups with competent dps 
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It’s pretty much impossible to find a healer this week. The only healers we have seen in queue don’t have rating or are alts or **** like that. I don’t think i’ve seen a single 2k + rating healer in the queue this week.
I literally dont understand this argument. You chose to heal. Blizz changed the game to have healers focus more on healing. What is the problem.
Now that you have more healing checks the way dps often have dps checks its an issue?
It’s not just a healing check. These dungeons will push a lot of healers to their limits. Some of the boss fights make you feel like you just survived a storm at sea where you almost drowned multiple times and leave you reluctant to ever go back into the water again.
I’m not here to comment on over or under-tuned, good players or bad, but I think the stress levels on some of the healing requirements is turning a lot of healers off.
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Don’t even play this game. There are dozens of bosses that made me feel this way pre DF. Most notable ones:
Shrine of the Storms 2nd boss
Shrine of the Storms 4th boss
Inner Mechagon 3rd boss
Nelths Lair 1st boss
Temple of Sethraliss 1st boss
Upper Khara 1st boss
In general, the hardest bosses for a group to beat have historically been ones where you need to kill the boss before 1 shot mechanics overwhelm the group, or where there is a some sort of dps check within the fight that needs to be met else everyone instantly dies. Fights have not been on the healer. Ofc there were times where a bad healer mightve simply not kept the group up, but for the most parts healers didnt need to heal well to get through fights. A good healer was one that had decent dps and covered the mistakes of others.
If healing touch fights makes you feel the way dps feel while dpsing tough fights, then i think its where it should be.
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