Have the graveyard spawns in AV always been so one sided?

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i said i could care a less, i can do other thing while waiting, hell i can even work while waiting. Multitasking is a good thing

the problem thich so many of you seem to think exists just isn’t there. You just don’t want to take effective strats offered by other Alliance players to work for victorious games. That tells me that there is a serious problem with defeatism with Alliance players

So yes there is a problem, it isnt the map. The map is fine

The problem is that Alliance players just don’t want to work for it

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Answer me this. When alliance fight and die on the SF graveyard flag should they respawn all the way back at Aid Station?

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Which is of no relevance.

Alliance must commit to betting IBGY, once that is done victory is in their hands

That is your path to vicory as has bee told by even Alliance playing youtubers

Its a free , solid effective strategy. If you all chose not to take that advice then yes this is an alliance player problem not a map ‘problem’.

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You didn’t answer my question.

Does taking IBGY choke you off from the rest of the map somehow? Wow maybe we should try that sometime.

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Because your question revelas why Alliance players consistently choose to loose thier games

The effective strategy is right in front of your eyes and yet you dither about on other non existant ‘problems’

Go get IBGY and solve your own problems instead of asking Blizz to give you stuff.

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We need to consolidate all these AV threads into the grandaddy AV thread.

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LOL that you are claiming alliance who we know are not any worse than horde are actively choosing a 5% win rate over the ~50% win rate they can get in the other two BG’s is the funniest thing you’ve said so far.

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No my question cuts right to the heart of the problem which is the respawn mechanic. Leave the map as is fix the respawns.

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please… please… god… level an alliance… and then say something. i’ve played both sides… and this is my post :stuck_out_tongue: you really are just so sure that your hordes 95 pct win rate is just because your players or are strategies are bad… can you not see the fault in that assumption? if you can’t then you have an issue with averages…

The battlegrounds are meant to be around 50/50 that’s what Blizzard said, they aren’t meant to cater to anyone… but this map DOES.

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Not the issue. Horde can use scorched earth all they like. Alliance, of course, are unable to do so. The map won’t allow it.

So the strat is only available to the Horde. Again, the map is the issue.

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Map is garbage. Do you know how to click on youtube videos? I’m beginning to wonder.

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Yeah, like Alliance don’t try that every game. Why do you continue to spout falsehoods?

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No, I want specifics. Gaining honor\rep while defending against the opponent is the point of BGs. What is “scorched earth”?

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Ah yes, taking objectives and preventing the other team from doing so… the “map” won’t allow it.

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When you guys stall to wait for diminishing returns, when you could’ve already won the game. The goal is to kill the enemy general.

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Diminishing returns? This just in bud: we are waiting for towers to burn. You get bonus rep and honor points for secondary objectives. It is not all about killing the generals. You would know this if you kept an eye on the rep ticks in your window. Burning these towers also removes war-masters.

Since Zyrius refuses to answer in the other thread I will ask you: how long a game is too long a game for alliance?

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The win condition of AV is killing the enemy general. You can wait for towers to burn after the game is over. Just win the game…oh wait your honor and rep farming thats why you play.

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Sounds like you want a pve race with no thought to secondary objectives, rather than a BG against the opposing faction.

The reward for AV is honor and rep, why on earth would we not strive for that reward?

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I am all for bringing back old school AV with days long matches.

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Sadly that won’t happen, they did bring back old AV in retail and it doesn’t automatically bring back the days long games.

Turns out it’s just as possible to zerg it and guess what scorched earth is also possible on it, so it’s not some magical fix.

That said I wouldn’t care if they added it as an option.

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