The problem is not the map, the problem is the alliance players
Blizz cant fix defeatism
The IBGY strategy works, but it takes effort and dedication. Dont expect 7 minute wins like the alliance used demand, its at least a 1/2 hour worth of work to into ensuring a victory.
Except it doesnât work, alliance either have get lucky and have horde not play any D or get onto a significantly better team.
Love his comments at 6:05: âtake the loss.â Also, " . . . go afk at this point." LOL
His strat is basically, âGO LEFT GO LEFT GO LEFT!â
So glad you posted this because NO ONE HAS EVER THOUGHT OF THAT BEFORE!!
Dude its the same youtuber for both videos, heâs offering a winning strategy for Alliance players. If you choose not to act on his advice then it only proves that the problem people playing the alliance characters, not the map
Get IBGYâŚthats the goal
Itâs not a winning strat unless the Alliance play perfectly and the Horde are dumber than a bag of dirt.
Go left to IBGY⌠REALLY?? This is totally NEW and Alliance have NEVER TRIED IT!! EVER!!
Except every game.
Again its the same youtuber youâre using to âdefendâ your argument, heâs offering victory on a silver platter
You just have to take it.
It does work , bit it takes effort and focus.
If it werenât possible then it would be happening, but since it does happen it can be repeated. Ergo Alliance players should learn from the lesson given by the Alliance player as mentioned how to win. buts it easier to complain on the forums about phantom non-existent âproblemsâ than execute a wining strat.
This is Wow, the path of least resistance for many alliance players is to whine than try.
Neither of the conditions it works on have anything to do with the strat being good. Horde choosing not to defend doesnât mean the strat is good, it just means horde are allowing it to happen. Getting a team thatâs several times better than horde also doesnât mean the strat is good, it merely means you got good team RNG.
âThe other team capped the flag first, its 1-0. Why bother? Just give up, the score imbalance is too much to overcome. This why no one plays WSG.â
Capping the flag in WSG does not make things signficantly harder for the other team.
Uh, no he isnât. Did you even watch the thing?? Do you think Alliance havenât TRIED TAKING AND HOLDING IBGY?? Really??
You must live on another planet.
Every strategy in this game has been tried. Every single one. Thereâs nothing new under the sun in this entire expansion. Thereâs no mystery. Thereâs nothing new to discover.
Itâs absolutely ludicrous that youâre sitting in this forum telling Alliance they need to get south to win. Itâs crazy.
Speak for yourself.
I already explained to you why that doesnât work⌠If you in your ignorance wonât listen I donât know what else to say. And to say that alliance has to toil and struggle just to âgetâ to the enemies nearest graveyard as a complete unit while the other side easily caps one and then moves on to a second in less than 90 seconds at the beginning of the game is just so silly. youâre really just not willing to listen to reason.
Also⌠one dudeâs video is not going to make my life experience and the experience of everyone else Iâve queued with recentlyâs invalid. Itâs just oneâs guys opinion⌠just because he made a video about it doesnât mean itâs true.
Maybe. But itâs not true to vanilla. And If intentional itâs foolish, because there is an alternate way south out of DB to use offensively while holding the bridge advantage.
I can tell you outright that Horde played âscorched earthâ in vanilla.
The argument that we allowed you to cap and hold anything south is ridiculous.
I think âright next toâ is not quite accurate. Also consider you have to run south west out on foot then mount and head back north.
My point is, Iâm not sure itâs significantly faster than rezzing at SF, immediately mounting and heading north. Iâm not opposed to cave changes BTW, just want to play AV again.
What may come into play is the 20 man res thing but I feel thatâs somewhat rare.
ya, it may have been a thing back then but I donât remember it. Either way, thatâs not how it is now. But ya, what happens at mid post horde getting there in 15 seconds versus alliance getting there in 45 is fairly moot to the point of this post. the point of the post is based around just that⌠the 15 to 45 second disparity.
Nope. They started playing scorched earth in TBC. Blizzard saw the problem and fixed it.
Math, distance, time. Itâs all measurable.
Hey, can we get a clear and concise definition of what alliance players are calling âscorched earthâ?