Who are you all?
What do you want!?!
STAY AWAY FROM MEEEE!!!
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I’ve been playing solo since 2006, I’m not changing now.
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Did people really sit in Ventrillo outside of raids back in the days? To me 2000s were all about socializing in text. Nowadays people want to cross boundaries and jump to discord right away, which is a bit of invasion of personal space for me kinda.
Also, the game doesn’t promote socialization. Everything is megaserver and made to make pugging easy, but community building is non-existemt. Same thing happened on Anniversary Classic where there is one megaserver, and everyone can find groups every time of the day, but nobody cares about anybody. There is no need to get to know people, because there are so many people.
I think early internet in general really had advantage of how few people there were in a given volume of virtual space. So you all happened to bond together. Instead of how nowadays, everyone is in one big social media or mega discord server blob.
It’s good on you that you created a small discord server. I don’t like discord personally, but if you can keep it tight knit and more of less private, I think it might be a great place to be.
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It is a bit more annoying to break into the end game mythic scene then in the past but its not that bad.
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It’s not about whether the game promotes socialization or not—it’s a video game, not a sit-down dinner meant for getting to know the people you’re with.
It’s really that simple. People who want to turn WoW into a social gathering can absolutely do that, but many of them have this strange expectation that we all need to socialize with them or we’re “playing WoW the wrong way.” That mindset is both silly and childish.
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“Convenience” is being able to type in chat. “Convenience” is being able to play multiple roles.
Instant gratification is clicking “join group” and receiving a group, instead of having to create your own group/spam for people/etc.
What a dumb “uhm whell achutaklly”.
Edit: Reminder on “unblockable” troll faux-correcting posters, you can navigate to your forum summary, preferences, users, type their name in, and manually block them. Make sure you mouse-over their character frame to get the correct server, in case there’s multiples.
MMORPG’s were never intended to be games that forced you to do group content. They were intended to be big open living breathing worlds where you existed with others but played your own way.
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I’m not saying it should promote socialization, I meant that the old game happened to be a better place to socialize, along with 2000s internet, and because servers had less technical capacity, and less people had broadband internet etc. So you would bump into the same people over and over.
oh. i see. a pseudo intellectual. lmao. thanks for the laugh. wild that u have no idea thats called convenience. but go off, be confidently incorrect.
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That’s not even the full context. Back then, WoW was essentially the best option people had for communicating online with a large group—it was the best of the worst ways to “socialize” online.
When social media came along, it completely obliterated that so-called social aspect. People now prefer curated experiences, and social media is far superior for socializing or communicating compared to WoW’s clunky and outdated messaging system.
In many ways, tools like Vent, TeamSpeak, and similar platforms contributed to WoW’s decline. Players moved their communication out of the game, so Blizzard never felt the need to improve the in-game communication UI or tools.
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They didn’t forget. They just stopped caring because it’s not necessary. It’s just not hard to figure out. If people aren’t required to do something, they won’t.
I’m not afraid at all. Try me.
Rezbit#11396
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The Furry (yes, them) community is actually the most social group I’ve ever seen.
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There are two sets of words that definately blend well together…
In what way do you expect total strangers who come together to do a group activity that can take minutes (depending on various circumstances) to be social enough to make friends? I know nothing about anyone who appears in my group list for a random; they could all be real life Baxters for all I know, and I dunno about anyone else but I just dont have time between admiring their transmog and, y’know, playing the game, to find out more.
There are plenty of ways to make friends in WoW but it takes time and a fortunate coming together of people you are interested enough in to spend time talking to. It’s like expecting someone to break into chat with a group of people who happen to be in the same carriage as you on a train. It’s not a logical or workable way to connect, socially.
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Lol. My pathfinder 2e game is hosted online now. Time changes l
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I really don’t seek out people to hang with or be a social butterfly. I’m just not that kind of person. I stick close to a few online WoW friends and have many acquaintances, but other than that, I am not in discord voice chatting away. Just not who I am.
What’s nice about an MMORPG is I don’t have to be social if I don’t want to. I can play solo and ignore just about everybody. If I want to be social, that option is also there. I do agree that socialization in this game has declined over the years, but I feel that’s a player made problem, not a blizzard problem. Blizz just gave us the options, and that’s what I love about MMORPG’s, we have options.
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- WoW hasn’t been a RPG since at least Mists of Pandaria. That’s when it started to lose a lot of the RPG aspects and became more and more focused on being a MMO first, foremost, and primarily.
- Folks are still social in the game but you gotta initiate and actively talk with people. Passively talking about things doesn’t happen because it is one of the most unnatural ways people have conversations. We are just taught to do that by saying stuff “So nice weather today isn’t it.”
If you want to be social, be social. It ain’t difficult, but no one is doing it for you - and you can’t force folks to be social who doesn’t want to be social either. Just like how it has always been.
And you bring this up because… the main point of your thread was to sneakily whine about M+ I assume? M+ ain’t toxic just because a bunch of forum trolls keep trying to convince other forum trolls that it is.
So bringing this up just poisons any credibility you have when you say stuff like that. But judging by your post history and when you post things on these forums… I’m guessing you are just a troll.
Do ya’ll ever get bored of trolling…? Pick up another hobby, like knitting, painting, or … I dunno, game making.
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How would you feel about other people telling you that you must have fun the way they want you to?
How would you define “anti-social” in the context you are using it? Not wanting to be friends with someone who insists that you have to be their friend isn’t “anti-social”. I would rather play by myself than allow myself to be manipulated in that way.
It’s a sad life in wow now that people think that other people should have to be their friends. Nobody is afraid of friendship. They are allowed to choose their own friends.
It’s not unique to WoW or anything, but people have gotten less social as a whole.
I think it’s moreso that everyone has established friend groups now, and aren’t the kids/teens/young adults frolicking around like they used to be, lol.
Getting into an in-group can be hard, as an outsider.
Also, also, most people playing WoW at this point have done so for years, and teaching noobs wears thin on patience and stuff- everyone expects everyone else to know how to play already.
In Classic, you are way more likely to find WoW noobs and thus make friends more organically, because the game is slower and less solo-oriented outside of leveling.
I’ve made a few friends during my HC Classic adventure while questing for group quests, but haven’t made any friends during TWW leveling four characters to max level and grinding PvP. People just queue up and disappear for good afterwards.
It’s kinda the LFG tool’s fault, in addition to other conveniences. You aren’t ‘forced’ to interact and talk to players, with the exception of maybe M+.
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I see people saying this, now and then. I don’t believe it. I have been playing long enough to remember a time before it became a thing and I don’t recall playing with strangers in organised pugs as a way to make connections that lasted longer than the reason they were there for.
Social interaction takes work and effort on both sides. It takes a willingness to be social and the time to do it. And the best way for that to happen is in guilds because you see them chatting in guild chat all the time. Just because you do one activity with someone does not set the stage for a future social connection.
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