Have classes ever been worse then they are now?

[Jessail-terenas (Jessail)]

Here is an example of frost mage raiding.

1. Do you need to decurse or buff? If no proceed to step 2.
2. Frosbolt until threat to high then proceed to step 3.
   3)AFK until threat is lower to repeat step 2 or step 1 if needed.

Much excite, very engage.

That was more interesting that afflock raiding:

1. Cast COE on boss
2. Press Shadow Bolt on GCD while watching TV

[Kermore-frostmourne]

Yeah Vnailla classes had a lot of problems but at least it had the game was still a rpg classes were unique and special. Now they are just he same reskinned abilities.

[Azraia-khaz-modan (Azraia)]

Typical MVP response. Blizzard has consistently ignored all types of feedback received.

[Beezlebubba-emerald-dream (Beezlebubba)]

I giant overhaul of the dev team is sadly what is needed.

[Melithiria-moon-guard (Melithiria)]

Try Destro during the pre-patch of Legion.

Could barely kill one normal mob.

[Kermore-frostmourne]

Yep. The team atm has proved they are useless time to replace them.

[Elynos-sargeras (Elynos)]

We didnt like not being able to the azerite gear we wanted so they added a vendor
We didn’t like farming the same traits so they are adding stuff to the heart and azerite gear will be fully unlocked.

[Bynx-baelgun]

Its the exact same instructions except its CoE on targets instead of decurse.

Like the exact same.

[Jessail-terenas (Jessail)]

Welcome to Vanilla, where afflocks had DOTs but couldn’t use em except in PvP where we were hated and feared (actually we did most of the fearing).

[Drougen-emerald-dream (Drougen)]

Instead of constantly complaining, why don’t you make suggestions on how to improve the game?

Every thread you make is just insensate complaining and you have yet to even provide a single solution.

[Jessail-terenas (Jessail)]

Technically complaints are that, by pointing out the flaws they let the developers know what the priorities are. Just because you don’t see it as constructive doesn’t mean it isn’t.

[Snowez-sargeras]

Well the design philosophy is different because most class’s have been simplified since MOP. Although, more buttons doesnt mean more fun.

Like I said I played BRM in MOP and didn’t enjoy the class so I switched to WW .

Picked the class back up in BFA and enjoy it immensely more then I did previously so I been pushing 11’s and 12’s with it.

Theirs no way you can you be “Objective” about fun. Either you like something or you don’t. and with brewmaster which is the class I play. I’m stating I enjoy it.

[Melithiria-moon-guard (Melithiria)]

Except outlaw rogue. They need to revert it back to pre-Legion.

To where it’s barely different than the other 2 specs? Pass.

by pointing out the flaws they let the developers know what the priorities are. Just because you don’t see it as constructive doesn’t mean it isn’t.

“ALL CLASSES R BAD” is not at all constructive.

[Hellbrood-dalaran]

Well the design philosophy is different because most class’s have been simplified since MOP. Although, more buttons doesnt mean more fun.

Like I said I played BRM in MOP and didn’t enjoy the class so I switched to WW .

Picked the class back up in BFA and enjoy it immensely more then I did previously so I been pushing 11’s and 12’s with it.

Theirs no way you can you be “Objective” about fun. Either you like something or you don’t. and with brewmaster which is the class I play. I’m stating I enjoy it.

I find BM boring now, basically you are just rotating through four buttons. Most of the utility has been removed from it as well. compared to mop.

[Kermore-frostmourne]

I have been making suggestions. Stop removing abilities, no more reskining of abilities, recent classes to how they were in previous expansions and stop with homogenized classes.

[Tentaclatrix-kelthuzad (Tentaclatrix)]

Lots of people here flaming Vanilla Pallys, good luck killling a good one once classic releases.

Good luck also having him kill you back.

[Jessail-terenas (Jessail)]

“ALL CLASSES R BAD” is not at all constructive.

True, but it is accurate. Just not very precise.

[Tentaclatrix-kelthuzad (Tentaclatrix)]

Have you ever seen a ret in Classic? When they get a seal of command proc the burst is huge.

Oh you mean Seal of the Casino? No worries, I believe my chances of having a Solar eclipse over my roof is better than counting on a Ret Paladin getting all his procs when he needs it.

[Vadimier-tanaris (Vadimier)]

It was plenty different to the other two specs.

Besides, it’s still very similar it just has a busted rng component.

Pass.

[Peppermint-eldrethalas (Peppermint)]

Classic wow

Kinda? Sorta? Some were really bad, but even the really bad ones had a lot of interesting fun utility stuff. So, even though the classes might be “better” now than Classic they still feel empty. Some of them, at least.