Hardly any rets in the AWC?

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honestly not even a troll its what all these ret mains tell me lol cough cough vanguards :confused:

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They did nerf HoL by 15% recently, the main problem I have with templar is that outside of that lucky HoL crit the dmg is just really meh while Herald auto melts people basically at all times.

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AWC is a ladder consisting of the best players in the world that can play to the max effectiveness. They have been playing against rets all season and know how to deal with them.

With that being said, There were an overwhelming amount of rets being played. One thing that was noticeable was anyone that actually had a ret on their team was lasting pretty long and it was nauseating watching teams having to burn through 5 million of the ret’s cds.

Hunters are perfectly okay though, besides that fact that their damage is insane and they barely have to do anything but hit a trap to win.

What really looked bad was WW tbh.

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Shuffle are completly differents.

In 3’s your class can have only 1 pair of teamate with goos synergi and your OP.

Shuffle is more about, do you pair well with most other spec ?

If you can do it all by yourself is also more important in shuffle then 3’s.

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so far they only had to fight a 1 shot comp (feral/dev/mw, triple fear dr btw) and mvq
 in the lower bracket


lost to cdew team x2, kalvish team (rmp, which is the entire upper bracket on eu), and zheng (jungle) on na


its overturned enough to get into awc but clearly not enough to win vs coordinated players :dracthyr_shrug: its still unbalanced and needs nerf, since majority of pvp gameplay is in shuffle.

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Yep, this spec is horrible. :+1:

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:grimacing: :+1:

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do you think the ret teams were equal skill to the people they lost to?

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wage gapped was up 2-0 on cdew team and forced a counter swap reverse sweep.

z-rated just plays a horrible comp (dh/ret/pres) and when they finally swapped to cupid they actually would’ve won that game if the hunter proc’d fenryr more than 1/6 (on top of not trolling LoS during TSA, game should’ve been over by then)
 so there is a world where they win the blind just like wage gapped, go up 2-0, lose the counter swap mm/dk 2-1, then swap to like bm/dh which is a winnable matchup for 3-1.

i think f tier is better than the players that beat them :slight_smile: :heart:

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:rofl: :joy:

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dorito tell us real talk is ret basically just a noob stomper spec and is it really bad at higher mmr and awc?

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If ret elevates people so much then why don’t good players play Cupid to counter the bad ones?

I mean money is on the line here.

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:rofl: :joy: think it’s as good as any other S tier spec atm but not leagues better like some would say it is. In shuffle it’s probably the best spec though.

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Dk hunter counters cupid??!??

OMEGALUL

When they swapped cupid they lost 10x harder and couldnt even force a single trade

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if he hit fenryr any of the times it was hati they would’ve won. cdew was being chained no outs, except the 1 time he actually got fenryr, and sam was almost dead multiple times if it was fenryr he would’ve died :person_shrugging:

vs sv compared to boomy? ya.
he was basically performing the same role as sub in the game assa counter swapped to sub , but instead of spamming cheaps he was ams’ing traps and aoe blinding pressure, gripping hooks, silence really good when trinket/sanc is gunna get used on trap/fear etc, while also not really being a good swap target or saturating stun dr
 really good counter swap.

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Mastermind ragebaiter

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i mean its literally what happened unless u dont think fenryr matters (like 20% (top 3) of BM damage derived from 8s windows) or you think they swapped mes in off vibes :smiley:

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dont think any rets are winning the awc so yeah maybe its true. ret is just a noob stomper spec /shrug

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I mean if good teams are beating them it really is a skill issue to lose to ret.

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True, and the average 8 minute match length for rmp isn’t a problem!