Hardcore is bad for Classic

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Having their own servers will fix the problems that the community has on realms.

The main issues are due to their lack of trading/partying and constant rerolling is that they kill a lot of the economy with the larger amount of resources that never get to circulate around (as well as occasional congestion on bottleneck quests in the popular low level zones). They also seem to go on RP realms and judging by some forum/reddit post history, they’ve also rubbed a lot of RP players off the wrong way.

All that stuff goes away when they have their own server which won’t interfere with normal MMO behavior.

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This is the problem with people nowadays.
Just because they dislike something it must mean that it’s terrible.
Becauase surely you have the best taste in anything, right?

wrong.

  1. Hardcore is the reason people are talking about Classic again.
    Therefor it can not be bad for the game, but instead it’s good for the game.

2." Blizzard is never going to make a hardcore server for you. Stop coping."
spoken like a true YouTube comment or Twitch chatter.
You think we take this personally, because you take things personally.
That’s why you made this post, because you’re a gatekeeper who takes it personally.
We don’t. And if you were a blue post anyone would take you slightly more seriously.

  1. “Playing super carefully and rarely interacting with other players to not die is not a skill. It is boring and against the core values of classic which is supposed to be a social game”.
    Ah, yes. Playing careful is optional and rarely interacting is also optional.
    Which makes you entire point alraedy invalid, but let’s entertain it anyway.
    Having an entire server with the same goals is more social than normal classic.
    Most Hardcore players support each other and cheer each other on.
    And because Hardcore is booming now, interacting with others happens every 5 minutes. Every quest you do is shared with someone else, and because you can’t help each other you INTERACT with each other. Movivating each other.

  2. “We need a fresh Classic not some HC coping server which will be empty past level 20 as everyone will be dead or in the starting zone”.
    You either have not played Hardcore, or you’ve tried and failed before level 20.
    Never the less, this last comment exposes you as a gatekeeper.

You probably never played Vanilla, but here you are gatekeeping Classic.

Hardcore is the reason people are talking about your game again,
but you’re probably just mad that new players who backpedal and click their abilities are better at Hardcore than you are.
“not using AH, not trading, not grouping for quests, not helping is the opposite of what WoW is supposed to be”

see? “Supposed to be”.
Man is a total gatekeeper, and he was probably fairly good at the game when it had a player base of 100 people, but now he’s back in line.
He’s actually the one who gets bored, so he doesnt play careful, so he dies and ends up back in a starter zone.

That’s why he describes the experience as that.

For me, personally, as a level 30 Druid, I have died 8 times before my current toon.
You don’t have to play careful, you can also play a hunter.
Not socializing is a total lie. Everyones super social, buffing each other. Cheering each other on. People congrats each other and mourn each others deaths.

The reason OP says “not interacting with other people” and “not grouping”
(and a lot of “coping”, because hes a twitch consumer so he lost the ability to communicate on a normal level,
is because he wants to spam dungeons to get to max level - which isnt allowed.
Grouping is not the only way to “interact with other people”.

To put it in your own words:
Pepega :megaphone: YOUR GAME BAD MY GAME GOOD
copium Blizzard will never make a Hardcore Server copium
I’m not gatekeeping, I just love Classic so much Kappa.

Youre a gatekeeper who’s at the same time very bad at convincing others of your argument. And if this is the way you behave, you shouldnt worry about Classic Hardcore not being very social, you’d fit right in.
Personally, I love people like you, who are so upset about something that they should be happy about (read: hardcore classic making your game classic more populair again)
but because youre such a gatekeeper you’re actually mad about it.
Not to mention that everyone and their casual mothers are now playing your game but in HARDCORE, and are better than you at it.

I think that’s why you’re mad.

You know the process of playing careful and dying and not grouping up and not being able to reach level 20. You clearly know that process (and I think we all know why).
But you hate it cause youre terrible at it,
so now you gatekeep Hardcore so you can flex your boosted level 60 hunter again.

I’d probably be mad as well if I spent years on my character that nobody is impressed by now.

And people are more impressed by a boomer getting level 30 without dying,
than people are impressed by your maxed out character.

Stay mad

oh and btw, you are the one coping hahahaa.
You are legit sticking your head in the sand, hoping Hardcore aint that populair.
you are coping, sir.

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“RPers dont even deserve their own server”

as ive said before, this dude’s a total gatekeeper.
that’s all you need to know to make his statement irrelevent.

If you had a legit reason to hate Hardcore because its destroying WoW and Blizzard and the future of gaming - sure.

But you are just mad other people have fun in a different way
= gatekeeper.

Read my last post for a total expanation of this guys personality.,
this dude isnt worth your time.

His favorite ice cream is strawberry and he wants no other flavour to exist,
and if you dont like strawberry youre just coping,
because my personality is the best personality, my taste is the best,
and everything I like the most is the best thing on the planet,
and I’ll go out of my way to tell others how stupid their hobbies are.

Yeah im sure youre a happy person with a happy family,
and everyone around you has to dance to your tunes to not make you upset, lol.
Stay on the internet, kid.

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Hot take: I actually agree that HC is bad for classic players, but not for any of the absurd reasons you posted.

I have had more social interactions on HC than I have in retail in almost a decade. There are tons of people that socialize, you just cant ask for help killing things, or getting buffed or healing. HC players can still group for dungeons, which absolutely requires being social, and then coordinating once in the dungeon. There is definitely a social aspect to it.

I’ve seen tons of people help others that are trying to farm a tough mob, or are about to die and get a last second heal from a player running past, etc… the social aspect I think is actually better than in regular classic ATM.

Wouldn’t this be what you want? If Classic HC is “ruining” your vanilla experience, wouldn’t you want Blizzard to put them on their own server where they don’t affect your game? Also, they already datamined some HC stuff from upcoming patches, so never say never…

The reason I say it’s bad is because if you don’t play Hardcore, that server is near unplayable for you. Quest mobs being farmed by 200 people with a macro, groups having to only accept other HC players makes it hard for non HC to find groups, all these new players farming mats but none of them going on the AH. (This is your one point I agree with… how is this affecting the WoW economy on this server? Would be interested to see.)

But, being honest… who cares?

If classic is seeing a resurgence in players because of a silly gamemode and an addon that tells people if you die before max level, then more power to them. Just let people enjoy things.

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Those anti social features exist because there is no hardcore server.

Anyways i dont think hardcore is good for WoW and i would rather just have SoM2.

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You don’t know that.
There was 2 HC servers that quickly deployed onto the PTR and were taken down. So blizz might be testing something.

I think the only one coping is yourself. There’s a huge community on the bloodsail buccaneer server as well as the EU server (forgot name) so clearly people would enjoy it.

It’s obvious YOU don’t like HC but how in anyway does it affect you if they decided to put one out? The HC server last night actually hit “full” at one point which shows interest.

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HC is fun but the whole no group thing is incredibly stupid. Makes trying to get quest kill insanely time consuming and annoying

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i mean you are allowed to group for dungeons, there’s only a few select few quest where you gotta stand in line, they are all sub lvl 10 quests which you can literally kill a few mobs and already get that xp you woulda gotten for the quest mob

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IMO, as long as they all roll on designated realms, I think it’s fine. If/when it starts to spread to other realms, then it’ll be an issue.

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ye… can be cool and etc that challenging stuff of no dying…

but the anti social part s quite ridiculous lol. … no AH no grouping… QUEUE FOR Quests coz u cant group ahahahah

you guys have no life?

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Ya this stuff is just there to prevent steamers cheating or people buying gold/gear ect, it will go away when blizzard makes it an official game mode. The parasocial people can just continue to play on the RP realms.

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The stupid thing is that you can only run each dungeon once. Which is also stupid

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maybe that is true for alliance but there are over 10 quests where you need to kill a 1 specific mob in the barrens alone, and half of ashenvales quests are killing 1 mob. doing it 1 person at a time is awful when there are 4-5 people all trying for it.

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grats on the 215 replies, nice bait.

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I’d like to say HC brought me to Classic era and after I wanted a break from it I finally decided to try to level a Warrior properly. I’m not saying I will manage to get it to level 60 but because of HC I’m playing Classic era

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Its fills in time for me when wrath to do’s are done. so far not a bad way to kill time. only fell off since I had chars to fix up in wrath’s AV weekend.

But now that char needs a few days rest in the inn. So I see another go at this. Small goals…I’d take level 20 at this point lol. My 19 died to being arrogant and stupid last week. I own that one.

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take the wand out of your bottom hole and just fall on it already…

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Personally…it’s the most fun I’ve had playing WoW in the past 10 years…I don’t why you should take issue with that because the fact of the matter is if weren’t for Hardcore I wouldn’t even be there at all.

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Its frostfire…basicallly the retail ragemode of classic. Okay…a ragemode who doesn’t whine about hunters as much but the same spirit is there lol.

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It really is. It’s just streamer FOTM because classic content has dried up and streamers are desperate to create content so they can have revenue since they only play to make money, not because HC is actually fun.

Classic WOW is easy. Leveling is easy. HC is just a game of patience and never taking risks, which is extremely boring.

The niche is streamers having something new to stream so they can continue to make revenue. It’s not actually something more than 0.01% of people like.