Do we know what’s the lore behind haranir shamans?
I understand they commune with ancestors and spirits, but afaik they don’t interact with elements at all. And yet shaman game mechanics focus almost exclusively on controlling the elements.
Am I missing something? Is there a direct link between Azeroth (their goddess) and the elements?
No, they just are cause blizz wanted them to be and thats it;
And im not joking, this is what it is.
World Shaman is the entire inspiration behind it.
If Thrall can be the Shaman of the World, shaman must be unlocked for Night Elves Jr.
While it’s not quite obvious, shaman lore does have the slight issue of being basically a fusion of enough hero types to have that slight identity problem, hence why some of the elites are about ancestors while others are about the elements.
They commune with nature and that gives them elemental powers.
I assumed everything underground is a shaman besides gnomes.
But aren’t those two things different? I thought elemental powers came from the different realms of elements (fire from the firelands, etc.)
We see Malfurion command storms
Various wild gods have specific elemental powers, such as Akilzon, Ohnahra, and Paku all giving their druidic followers air powers
etc
It’s not ideal lore but it is what it is, the haranir are a mess
The idea of elementals as intelligent, non-human inhabitants of each element (e.g., salamanders for fire, undines for water, sylphs for air, gnomes for earth) was popularized by the 16th-century Swiss alchemist and physician Paracelsus. He described them as ethereal, nature-bound beings living in the subtle aspects of the elements — not gods or demons, but closer to “nature spirits” with their own societies and limitations (e.g., lacking immortal souls). This concept heavily influenced later Western occultism, Rosicrucianism, the Golden Dawn, and modern ceremonial magic.
Sylphs and gnomes are also kind of a hellenistic name for what modern fantasy would recognize as elves and dwarves.
Ok, hear me out.
Whats the lore of Haranir warlocks
If they had warlocks, it means they made contracts with demons, which means the demons knew about them and defeats the idea of no one knowing about them
The Goddess told them how. Or something. I dunno, Dreadlords did it
I like to think that haranir cultists may have communed with satyr through the nightmare-affected roots of Shaladrassil.
It’s really the only thing that makes much sense with it. It’s a shame there’s no satyr presence in Harandar.
I just assume they learned shamanism from the other races. I assume that is the case with how they got say monks/warlocks and mages.
Monk is a weird class, several races had qualifying NPCs as enemy mobs long before mists, they probably already got the basics the same way. I doubt those Auchenai pugilist types were being taught by roving Pandaren.
I feel Mage as an arcane hyperfocus from Balance druid could actually work as lore (but maybe dubiously for the Haranir, balance druid in a place that sees neither the moon nor the sun is funny).
The shadow side of warlock could work from being surrounded by the leftovers of the black empire, less so the fel stuff.
Couldnt they commune with them offscreen? It wouldnt be a stretch that a naturalist race would be in touch with the elemental planes ?
This is another case where glyphs would help. We’ve seen Azerite mobs in various Elemental forms. With Haranir and their Alndust they could be using Aln’mentals for their Shamans.
I mean they have to know about elementals and such. Shamanism is just asking the elements to let you channel their power through yourself. That’s it. No prerequisites. I don’t understand why shamans aren’t available to all PCs
Why? There is zero presence of elementals in Harandar. Zero characters even mentioning the existence of elementals. They don’t appear to know them.
Its not that difficult of a sell really. Over the years Shamanism and Druidism have stepped on each others toes a lot as far as magic goes. They both kind of commune and channel the worlds natural power, consort with spirits and wild gods, perform rituals, act as spiritual leaders of their communities or warriors and hunters for either sacred rite or just because that’s the role they needed to fill.
I’d believe Haranir 100% have shaman, I mean hell,. Sulk’ra or whatever they are called 100% make totems and effigies for their work. We see it in quests. Haranir clearly lean more toward shapeshifting druid types, but they seem to have a mix of both working.