You chose to play on a pvp server. You have made your bed, and now you must lie in it
Yes, the last layers were removed Nov 12. Thats 2.5 months for the most stacked servers. For the majority of healthy populated servers, layers were removed quickly. ALL layering was removed ahead of P2 and the release of world bosses. This was a tough bandaid to rip for players who do not understand the meaning of “Full”.
I was on Grobb. We had thousands per faction.
No, I’m literally right and you’re literally wrong about everything you think about layering.
I explained to you in depth with SoD as an example why removing layering wouldn’t work. You choose to ignore the facts because you don’t like them, but you continue to be objectively factually wrong.
Feel free to try to argue in-depth how you’d manage severs with no layering with 400k+ people (if not 1m+) with everything working like some kind of classic utopia. They literally have been there and done that with original WoW and it was a logistical nightmare. That’s why they’ll never do it that way again.
Incorrect, and the devs also disagree with you. They know layering breaks the game which is why it was removed.
Ah yes, that’s why hardcore and SoD launched with minimal servers and layering. Because the devs hate layering and prefer oldschool… wait no, literally the opposite of what you’re saying has been proven.
The devs of Classic 2019, which is the only genuine attempt at providing a Classic experience we’ve ever had.
Layering is indefensible, and if you knew anything about the game you’re visiting you’d know that yourself.
Yes, they attempted to get rid of layering. It failed miserably and they brought it back because it’s not remotely logical or reasonable to constantly juggle tons of smaller servers. It doesn’t work. People don’t want dying servers and transfers constantly. Even SoD has to deal with this with one server and it sucks for people who have to deal with it. Without layering you have to deal with dozens of dying servers instead of a small number.
Personally I think SoD would have been better with a single server per region and war mode. That would have been the ideal for server management.
They succeeded and it remained out for the entirety of what was, again, the only genuine attempt at providing a Classic experience that this team has ever put forth.
Nobody cares about opinions from people who don’t understand the game that the season is built on top of, and actively abhor it.
Why do you even bother with these conversations when you don’t like Classic or that it exists?
You’re so close to understanding it. Now just push this thought a little further and try to realize why they only tried it once and never again.
Yep. Ive told friends i refuse to play pvp servers because a vast majority of world pvp is actually just limiting someone else’s fun and grudge ganks. Sounds like youve learned a valuable lesson and have plenty of time to level up a toon on PVE before phase 4, sonce phase 3 is DOA
Developer ego and a refusal to accept that WoW was best before 2006, and that the best thing they could possibly hope to do is to maintain that experience in perpetuity?
Nah. Just quitting tbh.
I have 15 days played of SoD. Not redoing it haha
Ok 2.5 months is longer than 2 weeks… and they brought layers back during covid
And then in July was the hotfix that made buffs go out to all layers. So yeah classic DID have layers.
Nope just dont ever care to change my avatar. If you get rid of layering everything in the world becomes contested. Like i said…
You think you do but you dont.
I see a lot on here saying play on PVE servers. Last I checked they are dead/severely inactive compared to pvp servers. A significant portion of those that join pvp servers do so because of population and availability of raids/dungeons. It’s not solely because we wanna pvp. We just have no option if we wanna actually play the game.
And this is wrong because? Once again, IT’S A PVP SERVER. If world pvp is better honor, expect pvp servers to be filled with pvp’ers who want to pvp. If you don’t like it, don’t roll on a pvp server.
Contest in an MMORPG?? The horror!
Layering wrecks the game and should be removed.
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Dont worry, all the shaman players are just the flavor of the month players that bank on the overpowered class in pvp cause they can’t play anything else. They’ll be warriors next phase.
OH NO! Resources would be contested rather than people farming mats between 10 adjacent dimensions!
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Because PVE players for some reason feel entitled to roll on a PVP server then demand that they soften PVP. It’s sad.