Ppl are getting so ugly in here.
Come on. I know ppl who are doing 20+ keys rn and have gotten it in the past and are struggling. Some of ya’ll can’t help but add salt to the wound.
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you know theres vids of severely disabled people completing games like dark souls and what not?
There’s really nothing limiting you from learning how to handle these challenges except the time limit, which i think should be changed, people deserve to tackle these at their own pace, but in two short weeks.
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Having done all 36 in legion there are some that are real hard ATM comparatively.
The mage dps on the Resto shaman one is insane for example
The bear one is fine
What you’re saying is I can be a Michael Jordon if I just put the time in? Lol. Not how it works.
I’m genuinely not though. Did you play in Legion?
If I could wind back the clocks and show you the forums, its literally a carbon copy of what I’m seeing now.
If anything, I think its great that Blizz is able to replicate (nearly) the same feeling of a challenge with the playerbase.
Being able to complete 20+ keys doesn’t make you a good player lol.
It makes you a geared player that has remembered how a dungeon goes.
This is really not too much different. There’s a pattern- and the player has to figure it out. Its really that simple.
Is it easy? No. Its not supposed to be.
Is it impossible? Absolutely not.
As I said, if you were capable of getting it in Legion, you are capable of getting it now.
Thats for sure not what i said.
You can look back at what i said, and read the words there,
No one said you need to be a limit/echo raider to complete this. This is doable by the majority but it will take time, patience and practice
You need to watch some video guides and go practice. Someone’s even linked you a very simple guide above.
it looks like they panicked before release, people were beating it on PTR pretty consistently and I THINK they buffed it in case it was to easy on live. From a dev point of view its probably better to release something to hard and nerf it then to release it to easy and buff it (players would lose their minds if the challenges got harder one day)
i mean…i guess?
theres not that much skill to it tbh
You can survive 5 annihilates. With current tuning and no cheese or timewalking gear, you can beat the fight but you need to bank orbs for the tail end of the fight and pop them in sequence to delay the 6th annihilate.
sarcasm is hard huh?
you can always nerf something but buffing something will certainly create problems. but from a tuning perspective, it feels like the adds spawn too fast. if you need incap to interupt them, how is it some can be back up with incap still on cd? this is more a p2.
maybe its me maybe the timing is off but it forces an orb use and those done come up that often.
I have easily 100+ pulls now and I’ve never not had incap roar for the adds. Not saying it doesn’t happen to you but that sounds strange since I haven’t seen that. Ya everything about this looks like a last minute decision to buff the dickens out of the adds and see tune accordingly after
maybe its the p1 to p2 transition based on when the adds are up or not that is doing it. like maybe the spawn timer resets making it not up if you had them up already as you transition. 
OH! do you only get this problem during the transition? if so that could be what’s happening. I’m not sure though
yeah, p1 i have it ready with time to spare. p2 sometimes i got nothing. have to typhoon. Si. stampede. other times its all good and the stacks get me or i get knocked way from orb… or miss the heal kick >=>; but at least all those other things are just “get good” but the incap being down feels like getting trolled when it happens.
Sweet! I wanna see ur bear. got to 20% tonight. I’m done for now and frustrated.
I wanna know what gear you used.