There’s also some great social addons. Attune is a good one if you want to find guildies and friends working through similar attunement stages to group with.
If people struggle grinding primals or world quests - nothing stopping you forming a group too, it’s often a lot more efficient.
That whole thing about needing to respect to farm … well why not do your farming with friends in a group? You don’t have to do it all yourself, in fact it’s better not to.
With Heroics - people like to be carried but it’s not really fun, the fun is in the challenge, taking a Tank that still needs gear can be fun - wiping once or twice is not a tragedy, it’s part of the game.
1 Like
There is a version of WoW made for busy players that includes all the QoL features like xrealm. If population is an issue try Pagle (PvE). I’m not trying to be toxic here either, as someone who has played since Vanilla the introduction of xrealm was one of one features that killed community/server identity in WoW.
2 Likes
If somebody calls you out (rightfully so) they’re automatically a troll. fail.
Anyway. Dual spec doesn’t do a thing for the tanking/healer shortage. People don’t like to tank, the ones who do, are.
That’s been PROVEN over like 15 years and every expac all the way through to retail current.
This 100%… I have people who play tank capable classes in my guild who complain about not being able to get into Heroic dungeon groups but absolutely refuse to tank them… they just have no desire to tank and duel spec won’t fix this.
5 Likes
yes i understand now thank you very much
Absolutely, I’m not joking or being contrarian when I say I’m less likely to pug Tank if I have dual spec than I am now.
Currently if I have time on my hands to pug some heroics I will Tank it rather than respec out of my raid spec. No point spending gold for a pug. But I’d much prefer to take the hassle free job of dpsing a pug rather than have to babysit strangers through it and no doubt cop some lip if anything at all goes wrong.
If I’m pugging at all it’s usually when I have dead time - to break up grinding primals and stuff. So wait time doesn’t bother me.
I’m sure some people will use dual spec to tank or heal but many will not and some, like me, will probably do the opposite too.
It may help guild runs out if the guild is short on these roles but I can’t see it having much impact on pugs.
Re-do those numbers for PvP only servers
Anything in Outlands fills up relatively fast.
Old World is pretty dead and can be almost impossible to fill though.
That was my point. When you tell someone to just add tanks to your friend list or just join a guild. As if that is all it takes and you will never have to worry about tank shortage again. That is what i was replying to and that is not what you did nit reply to. You typed out exactly the reaaons that the, just friend a tank comments are rediculous.
As for the social part. It is as social as you want it to be. Some ppl just like the additional challenge of human controlled enemies. In pvp bgs and open world pvp. Some join together to take on bigget bosses that they can not do alone. They dont have to make friends and get to know ppl. That has never been a requirement and when ppl say stuff like that, it is total bs. Thats what they want out of the game. Nothing more.
1 Like
Welcome to old fashioned mmos. Join a guild, join a discord or roll a tank
Blizzard disagrees. They have already proven that they are willing to make unprecedented changes to TBC if players are having to wait 20+ minutes just to play the game.
Cross realm LFD needs to happen or they will continue to lose subscribers.
3 Likes
on a game designed on the idea of 2 factions you ask what are the drawbacks of basically removing one of said factions
this is how you sound btw
You’re right, they don’t. A person can play this game and rarely talk to anyone if they want. But then they can’t expect and demand the same rewards from group play as those who do socialize.
That was my point. The game is designed to reward people for their social skills, just as much or more than their button pressing skills.
I would be one of those players if i did not roll a tank. I guess it takes all types of ppl to make it all work. Every time i think about switching to dps i just know that the waiting around to find a tank would juat end up with me quitting. I wouldnt mind waiting if i could just que.
I have heard and understand the reasons why a lot of people dont like a lfd tool. I agree with a lot of those reasons. But at the end of the day, the pros outweigh the cons and thats why i am all for a lfd automatic match making tool. It helps way more than it hurts. The same reasons for not wantimg lfs are the same reasons for not wanting cross realm bgs. But they do force cross realm bgs. Amd it works.
I dont think it helps the tank shortage though. The problem, not just for tanks, but for everyone i guess is at some point, you dont have a good reason to rum dungeons anymore.
1 Like
Blizzard, wheres my CR LFD???
I cant wait 20min+ just to play the game…
2 Likes
If a real group finder was added, people could still spam for groups if they want to. I don’t see how making the experience better is harming anyone. Much like how flying existing isn’t forcing anyone to get off their ground mount.
gonna have to wait 18 months for that.