Group loot is killing my desire to raid and/or play the game at all

I’ve done all the LFR as they’ve become available, 3 8/8 normal runs, 1 4/8 heroic, 1 8/8 heroic.

And I’ve won a single item. One. And because of how the loot system works I’m exactly 0% closer to winning any future items because next week I’ll just have to RNG /roll again.

Major Classic ERA 2004 vibes… but not in a good way.

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you can roll individually in lfr, normal, heroic and mythic iirc. no luck in lfr? go normal and try to win a piece.

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Was it a heroic piece you won?

LFR drops underwhelming loot anyway (as far as ilvl/upgrade track goes). The chances of outrolling everyone who might want any given item is so small anyway.

Think of LFR as a way to tour the raid, see the sights, get a feel for how the questline for that zone ends.

For gear you are much, much, much better off doing Tier 7+ Delves and Heroic/Mythic 0 Dungeons.

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At this point LFR is just a means for more choice of vault rewards.

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NO… you just kind of ‘throw’ LFR under a bus, like it’s not valid. They are all valid. You just use this to distract from the real issue… I hate as many who don’t ‘exploit’ the group loot… If you are running a raid… it matters to many playing the game as it is meant to be played.

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It isn’t valid. It’s Baby’s First Raid, and the barely-on-par-with-world-quests level of gear it drops reflects that. Trying to gear up in LFR is both a fool’s errand and a waste of time.

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LFR is one of those things were the reward to effort ratio is all out of whack. But what effort is there I hear you say? SMH. Everybody knows LFR is harder than normal by virtue of the type of crowd it attracts.

So do what everyone else does. Tag the boss and auto-attack while you alt-tab to watch YouTube or Netflix or whatever. I see 610ilvl peeps doing sub-healer DPS. Those guys are definitely afk.

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I’ve won ONE item. The other was given to me by someone it simmed badon that won it. I can’t roll over a 37 to save myself.

I miss master looter. We have people that win several items a night and others that have nothing.

It’s stupid.

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then head out. No need to force yourself to be here.

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You say that but I got like 4 bits of loot from 2 LFR runs the other week

Personal loot was better in LFR, period. The forums are a zero sum game where people assume advocating for personal loot in LFR could have a .001% chance to convince Blizzard to go backwards on master loot, and the scars from the fight to get that back are still too raw.

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Classic was even worse actually :rofl: , but I get your grip

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So let me ask you: if you won every one of those rolls would you still have made this thread?

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Someone else would’ve probably made this thread then to point out the problem with this loot system.

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People on the forum argued for years that LFR is real raiding, why shouldn’t LFR have to follow real raiding rules? LFR’ers aren’t special.

Bad rng streaks have been a thing forever. It’s not exclusive to GL.

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Speak for yourself. I’ll have you know that I’m quite special.

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Guilds operate on loot council.

You don’t need the game to enforce this.

Welcome to the world of pugging.
This has been how pugging has worked since forever. Don’t like it? Join a raiding guild with rules on how loot is distributed. Otherwise… you deal with what you have been given and you were unlucky. That happens.