Group loot is stupid and so was the decision to bring it back. None of this changes that.
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You know what else wouldâve fixed it? Not trying to fix something that wasnât broken to begin with.
Put it all back on personal loot and bring back master loot for raids for people who want to use it.
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blizzard has always been trying to reinvent the wheel. now look at them. running the wow machine with square tires.
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Donât believe that is the case. At least not always. Ran LFR this morning, and I was one of four people who rolled need on a weapon off Kurog. By the item finished rolling I was the only one of the four left and won with a roll of 60 something. No other rolls were shown. Seems like the other rolls were forfeited.
Go back to personal loot.
Add a window with two buttons when people got loot.
âYou have looted X item, keep it, or open to others for rollingâ
Done.
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Itâs hard for me to believe this when Valor vendors for PvE gear donât exist anymore, and havenât for some time.
Itâs by design. 
You can get your full tier appearances, including bracers, cloak, belt and boots, from Catalyst.
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I am with you. I do not like the group loot. I have watched people get items stolen because some one who has the item already get to roll need on it and take it from some one who doesnât have it. i have seen it devolve into a fight over I did more DPS I need it more than you etc. It really makes me not enjoy raiding. I hate the fighting, please put it back. This did not add anything to the game and only detracts.
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Very late, but still VERY BASED change!!
Imagine wasting resources paying someone to work redesigning this system that was not needed and no one asked for.
Master Loot and Personal Loot as options to choose from, and them becoming unchangeable once the instance starts was all we needed.
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As a result those that want mog that over gear LFR will never run it. So that means no more carrys. It will be a wipefest.
Imagine being so disconnected with your decision making that you now have redesign loot rules to not admit that your decision was an absolute failure. Group loot sucks no matter how you spin it.
Make a bad choice, then make 10 more unnecessary changes to avoid being called wrong. /smh
Just leave group loot to organized guild runs if they wish and 5 mans. NOT RAIDS 
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There needs to be changes to what items drop aswell so it doesnt drop 3 of the same items.
I cant belive how many raids ive done where it drops 3 of the same tokens or 3 of the same weapons etc. Something feels really wrong
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You know what thatâs fair I forgot about all of the weird hitler stuff kanye said when I posted that.
Iâm seeing a lot of people suddenly complaining that the loot droughts have started with the new group loot system. Iâm not sure what kind of experience most people had with the personal loot system, but THAT system was a drought for me. Iâve gone 2 entire raid lockouts without seeing a single piece, and the weeks where I saw a single piece (that may or may not have even been an upgrade or I received the same piece) were very common.
Personal loot was an awful experience for me. Iâd love to never see it return.
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Please just bring back personal loot, I beg. It had issues (mainly not being able to trade something you didnât want)âwhy not fix those directly instead of throwing the system out altogether? Group loot is awful now. Even with these changes it will still be a mess. Itâs not even about the loot itself, itâs the toxicity and people just rolling need on whatever they possibly can.
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Mythic Race for world first guilds did not like it because you couldnât trade upgrades so they complained about personal loot. The better solution was remove the restriction on trading things because of ilvl but blizzard wouldnât do that because it potentially reduces sub times as people fully gear faster.
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If loot is being addressed, can we also look into:
No more duplicate slot rewards in great vault (getting 3/6 items as cloaks or bracers feels bad, getting 3 or 4 big upgrades and choosing between them feels great, weapon vs trinket or tier chest vs high ilvl with optimal stat/item effect ring)
No more duplicate items (that you already have) in great vault unless they are ilvl upgrades⌠I have had 3 or 4 duplicate trinkets show up in my GV or weekly timewalking/mythic dungeon activity.
No more duplicate shields, ranged or other niche items for raids⌠e.g consecutively dropping 2 shields for a 30 man raid that has 1 prot tank.
No more dropping tier tokens when all member of the raid for that token have that specific piece.
Just some quality of life improvements, with your focus on speeding up patches and alt friendly design approach you dont need to timegate gearing up so much with the above blocks.
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Great vault targeting ilvl upgrade would be nice too. it feels bad when youâre top spots are the same ilvl or lower than a piece of gear when you have 5 other pieces way under what that slot would have dropped for.
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Please. For the love of god add Ensembles for tier sets. Now if I want the LFR tier appearances I literally have no chance to win.
Make LFR/anything you queue for personal loot, and let raid leaders set group, master, or personal loot for organized raids like theyâre setting a difficulty, and be done with this.
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