Yup, I will be doing this on a throw-away alt, most likely AFKing like everyone else in LFR because there is no use trying to even parse for big numbers on my alt with no gear, since I can’t even gear my alt otherwise I can’t roll on the transmogs. Plus, like you said, once my alt gets their transmogs, they will just be thrown on the backburner until next patch to AFK farm transmogs again in LFR. Great system and change.
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The tank in my Fri/Sat casual raid grp said that with his main team they got warglaives–there is not a single demon hunter on their team, so it got disenchanted. That alone should be reason to just give master loot to 100% guild groups and go back to personal loot with a removal on the ilvl trade restriction. Please do it–we learned our lesson and don’t want group loot as it’s worse than personal loot.
That doesn’t even fix the problem lol.
Blizz specifically wanted to reduce stacking in groups making it extremely easy to gear. They’re not going to 180 on that. If they decided to give back PL, it’ll still be restricted.
Quit in droves? Lol man this is an 18 year old game that’s been the biggest MMO on the market through its entire lifespan. Criticisms lose potency when you try to exaggerate so heavily.
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Still no fixes for the absurd Solo Shuffle que times.
Officer in a mid tier mythic guild, would rather just have personal loot back, it creates so much drama honestly and pugs are awful with group loot. Just for reference I manage the RC loot council in my guild and it still sucks
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Would you please just admit your terrible decision to remove personal loot and fix it. These are the things that make people unsubscribe. Listen to your customers. At leas bring personal loot back to lfr to remove the toxicity you introduced.
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They are punishing the masses for the sins of a few. If you can have the resources to put together a group and feed gear to a person oh well. Lets not inconvenience 90% of the population because of issue caused by 10%.
Loot council literally never works you must be crazy. Quickest way to dismantle a guild is to introduce loot council.
Mythic dude is still going to roll for tmog. He is going to get it on a character he’ll never play past lfr. Whats the difference? You lose your tier peice to the same person either way.
So you join a different guild. I’ve raided with guilds like this before. They geared healers last, because healers have bottom prio on upgrades when loot is determined by the guild, because its common sense. You can’t outheal an enrage timer, and you can’t outheal a tank getting 1 hit, so you gear them first. And guess what, I was a healer in this guild. Did I want loot? Of course, and I got it, because we cleared more bosses quicker because we had a priority system.
Because this isn’t a solo player game? Raiding is a team effort. I tend to find the raiders who are always “me me me” don’t tend to last very long in higher end content. You didn’t kill the boss by yourself, what makes loot “yours” more than anyone elses?
I don’t know, the same reason someone out in the world is doing something I don’t personally like, but I don’t care because I don’t see it happening. I don’t care what other people are doing. I only care what I am the people I choose to raid with are doing. If I didn’t I’d find another place to go, theres thousands of guilds in this game.
I still don’t understand why you care about a guild you have nothing to do with having the ability to choose how loot is distributed.
Forcing the entire playerbase to play how you feel they should sounds a lot more toxic to me. I don’t want any forced loot system. I want freedom of choice.
Also I personally feel like the choice was taken away because GMs didn’t want to keep answering “ninja looting” tickets. Pretty sure in WoD they finally just said they would no longer be addressing ninja looting unless it was done in a very shady way, like if someone was able to change the loot system mid fight or something, and that if you joined a raid using ML it was your fault if you were ninja looted.
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Joining a different Guild until you find one is one of the hardest things, because not only does it set you back from gaining raiding experience, but you have to go through a higher chance of the same issues you left before. Like I wrote above that priority system works for a good amount of guilds and I’m sure players within your guild did not like that system, but went along with it because of the system at the time.
Solo player game? The mess? So GW2 is a solo player game because they have personal loot? 
Really? Because what I got from Master Looter was the “me me me” and the whole, “I’m the Guild Master/Officer/friend of the Guild Master, so loot is mine/theirs”, or “I deserve this loot more than you because you wouldn’t be here if I didn’t invite you” mentality. The mess are you even writing. You can really tell the ones who want to control loot from others in these forums. Too obvious.
You don’t care, but you respond to care? Again, the mess is you writing here?
Because, as I wrote above, it effects others. HENCE, if you use some brain cells you’ll understand WHY they took out that system. Also, I was apart of many Guilds who had greedy Master looters which halted many of mine and others raiding progression back in the day. So, speaking from experience, yes I will speak on it. Just because I’m not in that Guild doesn’t mean I should remain silent. The mess is wrong with people.
Forcing an entire player base to succumb to greedy Master looters sounds a lot more toxic to me. Oh wait, it was, which is why is no longer exist. You want freedom of choice… that was Personal Loot… how did you miss that? Master Looter isn’t a freedom of choice unless you are the person who controls the loot… 
I wonder why… oh I wonder why…
this alone tells me your mentality… you are lost and your voice beyond this will no longer be heard from me. You are either blind, trolling, one of those Master Looters, or completely lost. Either way, I’ll end this conversation between me and you. Go troll another thread.
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I haven’t been this happy about the loot distribution since before Blizzard decided to force Personal Loot upon everyone.
Story of my life. Have done LFR every week. Have yet to see a dps “win” anything if they were near top half of damage or healing meters. Yet the people screwing around or dead 5 seconds into the pull end up with gear even if they have better. Granted Im lucky if there is ever more than 1 piece i can even roll on.
I mean I’m not the one trying to dictate how other people should play a video game. Good luck though my guy.
You want to use personal loot? Use it. Don’t tell me how I should play though.
Me: “I think people should be able to choose how they play a video game.”
You: “No, they should play how I want them to! Its the only way the game can be fair.”
Me: “Thats literally the opposite of fairness.”
You: “Omg someone with a different opinion than me! You must be some troll or something, I’m blocking you!”
Yep, I’m the toxic one.
Didn’t you know this is the key to getting good stuff? I did a normal Rasz last week and we had a guy afk the entire fight. He said he had to afk, we went anyway because it gave us a shot at an extra item. He comes back and loots the mount skin.
Theres something quite ironic about people who are in favor of personal loot vs those in favor of master loot. Personal loot people want the system forced on everyone who plays the game, whether they like it or not. One of the biggest reasons they like personal loot is because they don’t like when someone else is dictating how loot should be done. Meanwhile I have yet to see a single person in favor of master loot demanding that it be the only option.
Personal loot players tend to want personal loot be forced on everyone, and claim that master loot players just want control over them. Master loot players tend to want everyone to be able to choose how loot is done, so that everyone can just play however they want. Seems to me personal loot players are the ones who have a controlling nature, not the master loot players.
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The issue is that M+ has higher gear potential. Some of us hate M+. I enjoy raiding, so yes, I want my loot to come from raid. I don’t like feeling “behind” for not doing M+ but I don’t want to do content I don’t enjoy.
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It is a queable instance, I don’t see why this isn’t a thing.
It would make too much sense!
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