Dumb mechanics don’t need compensation when removed. We don’t need to compensate plenty of abilities if we were to nerf them.
What do you mean by you can’t remove these?
Holy god you can’t make this stuff up.
The level of hate you get on these forums for being boosted than you say something like THIS LMAOOOO AHHHAHHAHA
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Here’s Mehh telling Chanimals to kill the grounding that is going to occur in 1s, because Mehh is loading up an Ulti Pen. Chanimals confirms and states he will get it.
Then the shaman moves it, and Chanimals confirms he can not get it. But I mean, it’s only the best tournament team the game has currently, and has ever arguably seen. It’s only the best Warlock and Healer in game. Wish they had half a brain, so unforch.
They’re only preemptively calling that the grounding will occur in 1s, actively looking / preparing to click and snipe it, and then still being unable to do it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ocdz7gcJyc&t=778s
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Despite this he still kills the shaman team with the op grounding totem? No shamans of any spec in the finals of the AWC this season if I recall right.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m actually on board with changing current grounding totem, it’s dumb. Wouldn’t shaman need something in return though. At least some sort of numbers tuning, especially rsham.
ultimately the only thing both his clips showed was that shaman dies every time regardless of grounding, and is in dire need of a real baseline defensive.
I don’t necessarily disagree, I just don’t think thats true in this situation because Grounding acts as a pretty big defensive for the dps specs of Shaman. I also don’t disagree its a little too good, but enh/ele have a pretty big issue with their honor talents being clogged with really good defensive talents, leading to choices no other specs really have to make.
For example Burrow is an insanely strong defensive for enh/ele, probably our strongest, no other class has to take that in their honor talents its like Divine Shield/Ice block/Turtle being in honor talents. I’d like them to move a defensive talent or two out of our honor talents and into the class tree either before or at the same time as a nerf to Grounding.
Examples of that would be: Moving Burrow to the class tree in Stone Bulwarks place and making Stone Bulwark baseline and for Enh specifically moving Stormweaver into the class tree in place of Natures Swiftness because that is entirely useless for Enh, like not even niche just useless. With AGs removal this would also give PvErs a decent way to maintain off heals. They could then nerf Grounding and maybe add a dps oriented honor talent to replace Burrow.
What I meant by this for Nether ward is it doesn’t get removed when it immunes/reflects a spell, it works for the entire 3 seconds. It is purgable so it has a downside just like Grounding is killable, but obviously Nether Ward is specific to the lock and Grounding is for the whole team so its not nearly as strong. Again I am not disagreeing that Grounding is too good, I am just saying I dont think its good to nerf that without considering what it does to the other 2 specs. Enh is already squishy and losing AG makes that worse, a nerf to grounding right now would make it just as squishy into casters as it is into physical. Needs defensive help
I’m convinced he’s trolling at this point.
In Classic it’s exhausted with one spell. They could do that but indirectly buff it to also cover all magical effects.
Perhaps it would prevent a heal or even a Paladin from using bubble
Excuse me what
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I mean we can already dispel and shatter. I don’t think it preventing divine shield is that crazy if it consumes the totem
Any reason they don’t cc the shaman or bait out grounding first? Maybe we track projection?
Isn’t that the attitude stuff like sanc, MD, hunter pets or just about any reactive defensive gets treated?
you don’t understand, they are the best thats why they cast ulti while knowing grounding is coming up and will be moved
the fact that they are so far ahead he can use offensive ulti is a testament to how op grounding is
Casters are so salty about grounding totem but its a huge piece of shamans kit on all specs. Asking for grounding totem nerfs is just silly. Whatever Ele is doing to people shouldnt make grounding totem a target.
The same people complaining about grounding totem probably ignore psyfiend too.
The only problem I have with DPS type shamans, is that their self healing is like… 40% too strong. Other than that they’re cool and I’m making one right now.
It isnt though. It’s incredibly weak outside AG + Ascend.
From an enh perspective, if you spec refreshing waters + stormweaver you get some non trash self heals but nobody does that, and if you do you lose 10-20% damage because you need those globals for damage, as well as losing decent talents.
If any shaman is self healing they have already lost the round.
It doesnt need any outside of AG and Ascendance
Like i said, it has almost none and any shaman healing outside that is already dead…
That’s simply not true. They only need one big heal and it always happens. That’s all they need. That one big heal.
I don’t think any decent rated player has ever run into the issue of a shaman healing themselves to win outside of DF S1.