“Grey” Alliance actions in BfA?

What are they?

Presenting Dwarves with too insignficant a role.

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I’d say Tyrande/Genn telling Anduin to get bent and doing their own thing is about as grey as the Alliance is gonna get this expansion… and even then, I don’t exactly blame them.

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We expected to have our story included in this game?

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The nelves killing a val’kyr. I know their people and homes got destroyed, but that revenge is going too far…

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I’m with them. Sorry Wrynn but you aren’t my king!

Even then, those actions are pretty “good” as far as alignment goes. Erring on the chaotic/neutral side, but good nevertheless.

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Kiss my shiny bottom!

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Only after I hand it over to the Banshee Queen personally. I was going to give her Genn but he’s not that bad after all. I only hope our old outdated leader is onboard because if not I’m getting Yrel from AU Draenor to lead us!

I think they sold a grey item. Heathens.

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Yup, I agree. As I said, I don’t exactly blame them, they are pretty justified in their actions. But it is an internal conflict on the Alliance side so… it sorta counts as grey? I mean, I’m stretching here, but I can only work with I’m givin.

There was very much wasted potential for:

-The Scarlet Crusade remnants to rejoin the Alliance, spurned but needed in a time of war like the Void Elves.

-Genn Greymane to start the war in order to not defile the Horde’s story once again

-Gnomes to develop a weapon of mass destruction similar to the blight. In the real world, guess what happened, other countries didn’t sit there and do nothing while the USA made nukes just because of moral restrictions.

-Jaina to start doing “necessary” actions instead of seeking an island vacation therapy session where all of her sins are somehow forgiven and justified because her mom says so

-Kul Tirans as a new ally are unburdened by Alliance morality and could have brought something to the table, but (I haven’t played Alliance side yet) apparently that was all scapegoated to Ashvane stuff

-Night Elves, incredibly angry, did nothing but take back what’s theirs and some only have a different eye color to show for it

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Bellular put a video out on this conflict and how it could affect 9.0. I think an inner conflict Alliance side could be cool. Seeing the “good guys” having a Civil War and maybe the new warchief has to step in and that causes splintering on the Horde. Which is already weak due to the ongoing Sarufang vs. Slyvanas issue and what becomes of her.

Do we know how much damage the Alliance inflicted at BoD? Did they just kill the guards and the King and skedaddle out, or did they get civilians as well?

Internal conflict isn’t immoral.

I mean, it couldn’t be that the lead developer deliberately misled the players in order to couch the blow to the player base when it was confirmed that the Horde, as a whole, were engaging in complicit evil as the villains in the narrative, all the while knowing the Alliance would be more spotless than ever. Or could it?

No… that’s paranoid. Of course not.

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Umbric deciding that a bunch of people at a party need to die instead of just focusing on going after who they thought was Gallywix or targeting military production.
Judging this based on gameplay I saw and descriptions from Alliance players. If it is actually different than what I described, feel free to correct me.

I haven’t heard of this, but even if true, that rings more of Horde in-fighting trickling into the defector’s methods. Void Elves are barely Alliance.

They join the Alliance. It is one thing to temporarily work with Alliance because the internal threat is greater than the external one, another to just join them with no intention of coming back and be fighting on opposite sides of the war. I am pretty sure they intend on forcing Quel’thalas into the Alliance.

Fair enough, but I’d hardly count one of their actions as a condemnation of the wider Alliance.

How? They were using that Val’kyr to kill and raise the Kaldorei people. I’d say that was a longtime coming. Is it because “the Forsaken must endure?” They’re not allowed to play that sympathy card when their race’s endurance is born from killing and raising members of other races.

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