I’d like the green iris to pay homage to the blood elf heritage in the same way the helfers want the blue eyes to pay homage to their high elf heritage.
Void Elves being Blood Elves is canon, Void Elves being High Elves who reside outside of Silvermoon is not.
Not trying to poo on the helfers, just saying that if we’re gonna have the blue eyes which aren’t supported as strongly by the lore then we should have the green eyes too which is lore accurate.
I don’t wanna take away the blue eyes from the helfers, I just want the green eyes for us who follow the original story of us being blood Elves
Funny, where are all the Fel racials then? An elf’s eye color isn’t a biological change, it’s a magical one, and in this case not even permanent according to the Devs. An example of an elf changed by the Fel would be the Felblood elves, who bleed green and have been permanently altered genetically by the Fel. Much like the Void elves were permanently changed by the void, altering their very genetics, and racials with biological void elements.
Void elves will always bleed purple, their voices will always echo with the void, and they will always illuminate like a void glowstick in combat, these are racial changes that separate them from any Blood or High elf.
I’m really confused by their comment, like anyone can easily just walk up to Alleria and see for themselves, so why lie and then make no attempt to actually back it up?
I love alleria’s void super saiyan form! Thankfully there are plenty of green void effects from many void spawn creatures therefore it would make sense for void elves to receive this kind of customization!
Yup this is true. But visually it would look different from the fel glow. Since void is about emptiness, its why I suggest removing the eyeballs and adding void pit black holes and teeths for eyelashes.
I am 100% down with this, as well as giving Void Elves ALL the Blood Elf hairstyles, so my Void Elf can actually LOOK like a bona-fide Alliance High Elf.
I agree. Personally would love to see some more eldritch customizations. Removing eyesockets, noses, adding extra eyes over the body or in the hair. Adding eyes on the back, a blackhole bellybutton. Etc. Maybe some eyes on the back of their head.
Me too, as alleria has proclaimed the mastery over the void these effects would range from varying degrees, when it comes to void elves literally anything is possible ie. natural skin tones and hair colors and removal of tentacles further supporting the idea that void elves can almost shapeshift on demand.
Ultimately, you’re not quite right here. Void Elves and Fel Blood Elves are still the same race. In-game classification isn’t 100% canon.
Let’s take Dwarves for example. There’s no denying that Dark Iron Dwarves and (Bronzebeard) Dwarves that the same race. Their physical form are the same, there are only minor differences like skin, eyes, etc. However, their physical form (which by this I mean their silhouette/shape if that makes sense) remains the same.
Now let’s look at Nightborne and Night Elves. They are undeniably two different races. Their bodies have gone through mutation that has actually changed their physical form. Put them side by side, and you can clearly see that their silhouette/physical structure are completely different.
While the game classifies both as different races, one pair are truly the same race while the other pair are truly a different race.
The same applies to High Elves. Imagine it like the Dwarf example, where no matter what Dwarf tribe you point to they are still Dwarves. No matter what kind of Elf you point to, whether that be Blood Elf, Void Elf, Felblood Elf, etc. they are still fundamentally the same race (High Elf). I mean this purely in the branches of High Elves sense, the Night Elven branch is separate. Also as a quick aside: mutations like tentacles, horns, etc. that are minor do not classify being a different race/species. We have real life human examples of similar mutations, and they’re still part of the Human race/species.
We also have to keep in mind that there are two different ways of using “race”. The first way, in which you could make the proper argument that they’re different races, is in the sense that they do have the minor physical and cultural differences. However, with this definition you can therefore not claim that Blood Elves and High Elves are the same race.
The second way of using “race” is in the species way. Take humans for example, you have Caucasian and Asian. They’re different races, but still both part of the Human race. In this example, while they’re different races in the previous version, they’re the same race in this version. It’s pretty much the same in the High Elf/Blood Elf/Void Elf example.
The problem is that those on the Anti side of the fence only subscribe to half of the truth, which is both incorrect and also harms the half they cling to. By claiming Void Elves aren’t the same race as High Elves, they have no choice but to also admit that Blood Elves aren’t the same race as High Elves. The truth of the matter is, both are the same race.
We even have the devs siding with Pros on this:
“High Elves? Honestly, spoilers guys, Blood Elves are pretty much High Elves. Void Elves are also pretty much another flavor of High Elves.”
Anyone would be able to tell you that his use of “also” and “another” imply that he was using the “flavor” point for Blood Elves as well and not exclusively just Void Elves.
Ion: Blood Elves and Void Elves are both flavors of High Elves.
Now let’s move on to the customization. We have been told that the purpose of the High Elf customization (which has been given to both Blood Elves and Void Elves) was for the purposes of tying them back to their roots and letting players choose where they want to align and what fantasy to play out. These options are based on the lore, which is why they were given. Not all Void Elves were infused with enough Void energy to change their skin and hair, and some eventually learned to control it like Alleria learned to.
This argument isn’t really valid. First and foremost, the Sunwell didn’t have a negative reaction to the Fel because it was tainted. The only reason the Void was a danger was because by then the Sunwell had been restored, this time with added Light which is what caused a potential danger.
If you’re going to argue that simply calling yourself by something else is enough to be a different race (which by option 1 is fine but option 2 incorrect) that also means that Blood Elves are on the same boat.
Yes, the Fel corruption for those that no longer indulge in the Fel will eventually vanish. You can also see that Blood Elves got purple eyes which are the exact same as the ones Void Elves go. This means the eyes can either refer to Arcane or Void. The High Elf fantasy was given to both, because both are High Elves and have just as much reason as the other to visually look like one. Magical infusion doesn’t always cause changes. In cases like Death Knights, Demon Hunters, and now Void Elves, it’s perfectly possible that magical infusion simply changes your eyes.
This isn’t a valid point to make. It’s been mentioned by a number of people that if Wildhammer Dwarves were made into a playable race that they would have different racials. We also have Dark Iron Dwarves who are playable right now and have different racials compared to (Bronzebeard) Dwarves. All three are fundamentally the same race though, just like with High Elves, Void Elves, and Blood Elves.
This is correct. However, by making this argument you also have to agree that the color of blood changing is also a magical one rather than biological.
Genetics being different is honestly a pointless argument. Everyone has different genes, and magic altering some doesn’t make you suddenly a different race/species. We also don’t know enough about the Felblood Elves to claim their mutations are permanent given the number of examples we have where changes like that have been brought under control to the point of being removed. Alleria for example, upon first consuming the Void Naaru, was entirely Voided. However, she learned to control it and that was enough to make the changes vanish. Demon Hunters go even further each time they use Metamorphosis, and they too are able to control the energy and return back to normal.
Racials are purely gameplay mechanics. Keep in mind that all but one of the Void Elf racial abilities were accessible by Alleria before she was infused with Void and it can be easily argued that Entropic Embrace doesn’t need Void infusion to be accessible. And again, see my Dwarf example.
She still glows… that was my point? She did in game, she did it in the 3 sisters comic. She does it when she accidentally unleashes the void a the Sunwell. I’m actually yet to see her fight without triggering it. And yes, her voice does indeed have an echo. Click her in literally any location and you can hear it. In fact, click any Void elf NPC and they too, also have an echo.
