It shouldn’t matter. Gaining 10 levels should make you much more powerful. Its flawed game design to get weaker when you level.
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I’ve seen a lot of people defending bugs like this too, which is sad. They literally use “shadowlands having a fairly smooth launch” as justification, when that shouldn’t be the case. We’ve just set the bar so friggin’ low for launches, that when they finally do their job, it seems like a miracle. They make enough money and have enough staff to not have easily fixed bugs like this still going on months after they’ve been known.
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What did you expect, our power was seriously over inflated due to AZ and corruption. The good thing is you didn’t have to destroy all that, it still works outside of SLs.
The comments on the original report of this issue on Wowhead say that it was reported multiple times in beta, but was never fixed. Looks like the legacy raid buff is missing for level 60 characters right now, at least in legion content.
That’s obviously not the only issue, given that we’re seeing level 60 characters doing significantly less damage in world content than level 50, but the raid legacy buff is hopefully the easiest fix. Put that back in.
There was a blue post from a yesterday saying they’ve fixed it, just tried ToS and got killed by Goroth in about 30 seconds. Just wanted to let everyone know before they try their own attempts.
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That having been said, my personal experience is in line with the OP’s observation. I was two-shotting quest mobs at level 50 and 105 ilevel. I’m two and a half zones in, and I’ve hit level 60. My item level has climbed into the 120s, but I feel way weaker. I’m still working through the campaign, and the quest mobs that I was burning through at level 50 are now taking much longer to kill. Remember when gaining levels actually made you feel stronger? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
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Going to add my voice to the chorus of people who think this is garbage. A stock 60 with a higher IL than an epic’d-out 50 should not be doing significantly less damage.
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This is a public service bump
looks like legacy buff isnt working as intended
Legion raids should be faceroll as soon as u hit 51
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Its not just in the raids either. I was doing legion world quests at 60 and was just shaking my head at how long it took to kill normal elite mobs for warden WQ’s.
Psssh…its working as intended. Ask some above. they know the score. its only 2 expacs back.
Were you stomping WOD as a 120 in BFA?
Oh wait…we were.
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This is frustrating because I remember hitting 120 and being able to work my way through Legion mythic 5 mans pretty easily. I wasn’t doing any Legion raids at that point, but I was farming the mount from Karazhan very quickly. This time around I step in to mythic Freehold and got my butt handed to me on trash (I’ve done all the 5 mans in SL on Mythic already so my gear isn’t half bad now). This tuning is way off and needs to be fixed, it’s ruining one of the most quintessential parts of a new expansion for me at least.
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Day # 5: Still oppressed by the forces of the Legion, prayers to our lord and savior Blizzard have gone unnoticed. Bump.
-End of journal entry-
Can anyone confirm that BFA Visions are inaccessible to Level 51+ characters on the live release? If so, it looks like I won’t be buying or playing SL content anytime soon.
not at all surprised. took them over a year to address the bugs from the last stat squish and they never got it right.
Guess it’s a good thing I haven’t gone back and tried to farm Legion raids on my main yet, after hitting 60. If I can’t do that it’s gonna cut out a looot of the time I spend in this game.
I wish someone could do a test where they fight the same BFA Level 50 mob while wearing the same all white gear (no legendary powers or stats) at both character Level 50 and character Level 60. If they are not doing more damage and taking less damage at Level 60 than they did at Level 50, the game is broken as far as I’m concerned. (If I owned SL, I might would do the test myself.)
A Level 60 character should be inherently stronger than a Level 50 character of the same (non-scaling) gear in a functioning RPG.
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They do the same flub up on
Every.
Single.
Stat and or level squish.
Period.
Then you have people who havnt tried it, have no basis for refuting it, come and tell you that you’re stupid, and that you don’t know what you’re talking about. When you were doing just fine before. And now you’re 10 levels higher. The game is telling you, that you have better gear.(higher ilevel) But you’re being WRECKED by something you absolutely dominated last expansion.
Every.
Single.
Time.
Some people have REALLY short memories. And really REALLY need to just stop blindly defending blizzavision. They screwed up, just like they screwed up the last time, and the time before that, and the time before that.
We really don’t need people telling us we are stupid when we did just fine a few weeks ago, but now it’s impossible. Thats just insulting.
Cheers.
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I wasn’t in mythic gear at lvl 50 (at best some pieces heroic Heroic Ny’alotha) and was able to one shot all trash in Blackwing Lair with Consecration, but now at lvl 60 I have trash surviving my Consecration, even if only barely. Bosses that were being one shot with Judgement are now taking 2 Judgements. How is it that I have gone up 10 lvls and gotten gear that was supposed to be upgrades for my BFA gear, but come out weaker? I went from ilvl 123ish to 141ish. I have another pally lvl 50 in only ilvl 100 gear that is doing better in there than my lvl 60 pally. That makes absolutely no sense.
I know the examples I gave are like “whatever and extra half second to a second difference in a kill, so what” but if it is noticeable on content that old, then there is something definitely wrong, and is probably seriously affecting people farming content newer than Blackwing Lair.
Also
is a problem. Why do players need to be fully decked out in the current Mythic gear, conduits, legendary item, etc so that “Legion raids wouldn’t be a problem”? Content that is almost 4yrs old.
Whatever scaling nonsense Blizzard has going on right now inexcusable. No matter how somebody tries to spin it for Blizzard, they screwed up. We shouldn’t be struggling on old content as our characters are supposed to be getting stronger. That completely nullifies the point of character progression.
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