If both sides perform at their best when trying to zerg, the Alliance will win every time.
Horde can win a zerg, if the Alliance stumble.
This was the meta for the first few days, it soon shifted after when Horde got tired of losing.
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They are implying that we did this to ourselves by rolling Horde in the first place.
Let’s make this perfectly clear- this is a problem Horde made, Horde are facing, and Horde can fix but are choosing not to.
It’d be one thing if Horde were actually trying to make the game better- but while your faction in general is striving to make the game worse, there’s no reason to look at your karmic justice as anything but amusing.
So what if you go back to wpvp? It’s more of the same at this point- threatening not to change isn’t really much of a threat.
That sounds good till you realize the map is very kind to the Horde defending. Horde will defend and turtle regardless if it’s a pug or premade. Defeating that as an Alliance pug has a very low chance. The map is flawed and it encourages these playstyles in both Alliance and Horde.
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Yes, yes I do. But please try to understand im not trying to debate right and wrong. Im doing my best to peer into my crystal ball and predict what happens next. I openly admit it is all BS i am making up but in that made up pretend BS im throwing out there, this is the New #nochanges. You may not like it, and you may not agree with it but remember what i am saying now and see where we are in 3 months. YOu will start to get what im saying. Again not trying to debate you, im only trying to predict a possible outcome.
That is a myth.
This mage makes it to DB in 2:30. Go to 2:40 and check out where the rest of the horde group is. This is why horde don’t win a zerg. It’s because they don’t try but will continue to believe it’s something other than the way they play the map.
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Thanks for the update Kaivax. I see why you don’t come to the forums often. The responses to your post are pathetic. Edit: Case and point, 2 below. Don’t listen to these insulting schlubs, keep doing what you’re doing, you can see the numbers and that it’s a major minority whining and crying.
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You are super jaded. My realm is fairly balanced, I’ve never camped anyone and yet there’s a notorious Alliance guild on my realm that had made entering BRM hell. I’m sure you can relate.
I have issues with the amount of honor rewarded in AV compared to WSG and soon AB. I would also love to queue with friends in AV as Horde.
I don’t wish to play Alliance, I wish to raid with my friends who I’ve been playing with for the last several years.
Yeah, I’m aware of the jump skip. Most aren’t though.
I wasn’t counting exploits.
Sounds like the bg que problem is cross realms fault on fairly balanced servers, but then again no one will ever know. As cross realm brought longer ques to fairly balanced servers.
Black rock mountain camping was kinda even on my server but my server has gotten smaller do to paid realm transfers so I don’t know the balance and probably do to waiting for bwl.
That situation wouldn’t be so unfortunate if you didn’t allow a group of 40 Rank10+ players in full PvP gear all queue up and join the BG together while on voice comms now would it? So out of touch.
You completely ignored the part that the entire horde offense stopped at SH. One horde player went to DB.
Horde don’t win a zerg because they don’t try.
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Yes because 40 organized and geared players communicating on discord is somehow equal to 40 randoms thrown together by the system… You’re so biased that nothing you say can be taken seriously.
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Let me correct your statement first before you continue to spout illogical fallacies. This is not a horde problem. It never has been. The BG issue is a direct result of alliance premades creating negative groups for alliance pugs because they queue dodge until they get the perfect comp then try to do AVs in 6-8 minutes.
P2 is pvp happened on a pvp server, again you had ample time and warning and there were even FREE TRANSFERS, this is not a horde problem, this also happens on both sides there are servers shifted in balance.
Instead of spewing statements filed with vitriol and inaccuracies do some research first. People like you are why the alliance has such a horrid understanding of why AV is atrocious
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And one player could defend the Aid Station. This is how strategy works.
They can’t queue together in a group only attempt to join same bgs. Horde can do this as well.
Yes, with 40 mins between attempts.
Which has nothing to do with your false claim that horde can’t win a zerg. They don’t even try.
I never said that we can’t win a zerg. We only win in a zerg when the Alliance allows us to.
Also sending 1 player to cap Aid Station is not a straight zerg.
The map is definitely not one sided and the Alliance have some advantages themselves, as was illustrated in the first few days of AV when pugs were rushing to boss and winning in 7 mins , and it was always alliance who won those.