Goodbye Healers

You play shaman like me. Your class has been practically deleted if you check the notes. So even if you have combat addons, do you really think playing a class with half the spells you had before will be fun as a healer with more boring combat?

Personally I think it will be too big a loss. Shamans got absolutely destroyed. It’s to the point where it’s basically a classic wow level of gameplay which is what I can only call boring. I don’t play classic for a reason. I play retail because it’s challenging and requires players to react to overcome.

Well… I should say “played” since I am quitting when my sub is out. Just got my FFXIV sub back.

It’s so upsetting to see Blizzard nuke shamans while simultaneously nuking all healing add-ons. And maybe the class skills update and they fix shamans (unlikely) but even if they do, the facts remain that wow is going in a bad direction in midnight. Instead of an expansion you’re getting a contraction.

Some people will like the simplification of wow. Not needing a lot of buttons, not having to use your brain to play, not having to hit that button that has a cool down to it except once a subscription and forgetting it exists… They’ll love it. I won’t.

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Yeah I’m considering returning to FFXIV as well, but I don’t want to pull the trigger on that until the Switch 2 version comes out, so I’m not chained to my home PC.

Anyway, since I’m not returning to FFXIV just yet, feel free to add me on discord if you wish. stormspark

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GW2 is pretty fun. I played it some over the weekend

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Saying healers in particular are going to suffer and leave in droves seems to be a doomer overreaction.

Healers just need good raid frames and an addon for binding mouseovers. Neither of those are going away in Midnight.

Hand-holding specific WA’s and addons going away is not going to adversely affect healers in particular. I know that some people think healers not being able to see all enemy CD’s and all friendly CD’s and therefor not be able to optimize their CD’s accordingly is going to be “bad” but I doubt that happens.

That level of information overload, addon dependence and cognitive load is largely to blame for having so few healers today. Simplifying all that and taking healing back to health bars being enough could make healing more popular.

I don’t want to track every CC, every kick CD, every DR timer and every enemy offensive and friendly defensive CD to the micromanaged millisecond to play the game well. I don’t want WA alarms going off when X CD is used so I can respond with Y CD. The addon and information arms race has made high end healing insufferable.

If we can go back to healthbars being a good representations of the state of the game, I’ll be happy and I think healers in general will be, too. Seeing someone at 100% HP but knowing the game is over because my WA’s and addons are telling me certain conditions have been met is an awful way to play the game.

I’m betting that we lose 1/3 of the total wow population once the dust settles.

Addons are one of the things that made wow stand out and gutting them will make wow feel like one of the other generic MMOs.

They should have went about this in a more precision based manner instead of ripping the guts out and leaving it laying on the floor

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I’m betting the population goes up.

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Ain’t no way son

The biggest issue by far is the lack of communication (outside of we have a plan/idea) of IF or WHEN Raid Frames will be SUBSTANSIALLY Updated. Given that Pre Patch for this game is in ~2 Months. We’re running out of time already.

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It will be a complete disaster, now maybe more than ever, with Blizzard being a hollowed-out shell of its former self. Thanks microsoft

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I’m curious: do you get dizzy with the world revolving around you?

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Blizzard’s chasing the ghosts of accessibility while curb-stomping the addicts who pay the bills.

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y’all are using addons?

I don’t heal, and likely never will.

But I just want to say I get Goodbye Stranger by Supertramp stuck in my head every time I see this thread, and I blame you personally for that.

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Ok so someone on the Vuhdo discord is claiming (I can’t verify this) that they got an email from the accessibility address, where Ion himself supposedly stated that all functionality of addons like Vuhdo, Cell, Grid, Healbot, etc will remain except for the ability to drive custom logic based on the presence or absence of spells.

If this is the case, then why did they go nuclear on addons on the alpha? And also if this is actually the case, why are they not sharing this with addon developers? This doesn’t add up and seems fishy.

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Hello darkness, my old friend
I’ve come to talk with you again
Because a vision softly creeping
Left its seeds while I was sleeping
And the vision that was planted in my brain
Still remains
Within the sound of silence…

Probably because it is Alpha where they are checking fundamentals/stability of the game are working properly. Beta is where tuning/bug fixes are supposed to happen.

you don’t really need addons to heal lfr

Yes, but there has been zero communication, or any evidence that they will be changing anything.

If they had said “heads up, most addon functionality will be disabled at the beginning of alpha, this is just for testing and functions will be reenabled over the course of the alpha”, and we wouldn’t have had any of this.

If this is actually the case, would it really have been so difficult to make such a statement? Also, I have no way to verify what this person said in discord is accurate.

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Irrelevant. It’s not about need. It’s about being able to customize my UI the way I like it.

I can’t remember a time that Blizzard was ever transparent about what they are actually doing. It seems it has always been this way.

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