Gold Trading - Clear answer is needed!

Are you planning to do this?

If not, why do you need a clear answer?

Relax.

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Exactly. Gold sellers sell gold that is automatically farmed using some sort of program. This gold will have been legitimately obtained.

In other words, money isn’t being generated from nowhere. It’s being transferred.

If you’re against this type of money exchange, calling it “pay to win,” then you should be outraged at “carries” through high-level dungeons for loot. THAT is ‘pay-to-win’ writ large.

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If I weren’t so excited about participating in the economy this time around it would be a really tempting way to earn the cost of a token for game time. Thankfully for me, I’ve come to enjoy gold making activities and look forward to seeing how much I can make so my activities in Retail will subsidize my time in Classic.

I think people should be encouraged to farm gold, buy tokens, IN RETAIL. Getting gold there is easy.

In Classic it is much more difficult.

Consequently Classic gold is much more valuable than the retail version. If someone wants or needs to pay for sub time with tokens, the efficient place to do it is in retail. Very, very few players would part with hard earned Classic gold for any amount of retail bling.

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I completely agree. I enjoy the time spent there making the money I need for tokens, which only increases overall value to me. Playing the game to earn game time is a lot more fun than working in the real world; to the point where I’d rather enjoy multiple hours making gold in game than the time it would tak in the real world to earn money for a subscription. It also gives me more real world money to use for other things. :slight_smile:

I don’t care what people do but “encourage.” No. That has the potential for serious unintended consequences. I don’t want to have to mindlessly grind in a different game in order to be competitive in the one I want to play. I want to dive into classic and never look back.

“Farmed using some sort of program” contradicts “legitimately obtained” but I see what you are trying to say here. The main thing is that the one and only purpose for these Gold sellers is to obtain as much gold as possible (by any means necessary) to then sell for real money. As we’ve seen many people are willing to trade their real money for the in-game currency. This has a pretty big impact on the economy as you have a large influx of in-game currency.

Typically for individuals willing to trade classic currency for retail currency, they aren’t farming gold on the scale of these Gold Sellers. If this was not a punishable offense, you’d see that there would a greater number of people willing to trade retail gold for classic gold than classic gold for retail. Not to mention the even smaller amount of people willing to risk the trading process.

This would have such a minor impact on the in-game economy that it would be hardly noticeable, outside seeing trade chat filled with people trying their darnedest to pawn off their giant wealth of retail gold. I would be interested to see what Blizzard has to say but I feel this is a bit hyperbole.

The venue where two players communicate to do anything is beyond the control of Blizzard. Activities carried out within your Blizzard account do have an affect on the game world and game play and are observable and subject to TOS and are judged on a case by case basis.

“IS THIS A VIOLATION OF TOS, OR WILL IT BE??” Possibly.
For a low level toon to give or receive that amount of gold under any circumstances would be considered unusual and qualify for an audit of TOS of both parties and may be found to be in violation of TOS.

As far as I know this won’t be an issue because Retail will be dead in a few weeks (tops).

If I buy 1,000,000 gold in BfA from Blizzard, is that against the ToS?

If I give by buddy a rare Legion pet and he gives me 1,000,000 gold while I am playing BfA, is that against the TOS?

If I give by buddy a rare Legion pet and he gives me 100 gold in Classic, is that against the TOS?

If I give my buddy a BfA game pet, and in return my buddy gives me some 100 copper ore in Classic, is this against the ToS?

If I give my buddy a rare BfA game pet, and in return my buddy gives me loads of herbs and ore in Classic, is this against the ToS?

I don’t see anyway Blizzard can police or even detect trading gold or game items between BfA and Classic. Unfortunately, Blizzard needs to set up a Classic token system to avoid scams.

That’s not a scam…its gold swapping and to a point they will do it but the classic gold will still have to be earned on that server. Classic gold is far more valuable people aren’t just going to trade it for retail gold period. By the time they farmed large amounts of classic gold they could have just farmed far more retail and yes they can tell. A token system would ruin classic from the start and everyone would quit except the retail cool kids with daddy’s credit card , which is exactly what players are trying to avoid and why old players are returning to classic. Wow has already catered to those welfare bums enough, this game is for us. Yes people would quit and it would kill retail. Keep the trash tokens and anything current in that dumpster fire faceroll game away from classic.

I wonder if some brave souls could volunteer for an experiment. I know a lot of goblins have multiple accounts and I’m assuming a violation that isn’t clearly written out would at most involve a temporary ban, so I suggest someone transfer large sums on bfa and as large a sum as you can in early Classic going in the other direction.

Since we have heard they are going to flag this transaction, I suggest you respond that you are trading classic gold for bfa gold. That is, be completely honest. State that since you’ve done this with trades between realms and between regions like the EU and US that you thought it was okay to do that between Classic and bfa, however, if that is not the case you would not do it again.

That would force a definitive answer I think.

If retail wow is considered a different game than classic (by blizzard), then it’s no different than paying real money (or services) for in-game currency and thus would violate ToS.

The question is, will Blizzard make efforts to stop this.

Pretty sure that would be considered “circumventing the rules/terms”
So yes bannable.

One thing to keep in mind is that that 1.5 mil for a month of wow time, is the equivalent of $15.

Back in vanilla (not that I ever did so)
1000 gold would go for about $60-100

Inflation and such
So while you can maybe make a deal in another server tho I recommend you don’t. They probably don’t have enough gold to cover the cost of a thousand gold in classic.

Remember back in 2004-2006 a lot of poor countries we’re able to make more money playing wow farming gold, then any job they could get. Entire countries GDP was tied to an MMO.
An hour of straight farming at level 60 would net you about 3-4gold optimally.

Well fortunately Blizz has already stated they will not be adding in coins into Classic and recognize the economy is completely different from that of retail.

No amount of arguments from Retail players will change this.

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I’m glad we’re not getting tokens in Classic. They’re a too obvious reminder of cash-grabbing and other Blizzness. We don’t need that in our sanctuary.

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How is this materially different from buying gold from a third party website with cash? You’re giving someone something of value outside of the confines of the classic game, and receiving in-game gold. How else could it be viewed except as a purchase of gold from a third party?

WTT classic wow gold for runescape gold PST.

I made over 50g in about 12hrs of play during the stress test. I understand that money was being deleted so people were spending crazily, but it’s not outside the realm of possibilities to have a sizeable amount of gold quickly.

Not going to happen quickly in game. You wont get 50g to hold and stare at for a month. Then talents will melt through that lol