For mounts acquired on the Season, I have no qualms with this. Arena is tough and finding a cohesive team is probably even tough to make it high enough to get the mount.
I wouldn’t mind if they added in the mounts as they are doing now at a later date since the other part of that feat is the title/achievement and equipment.
The same could be said for mythic raids when one could just kill the boss in a single hit. The raid itself is there the same way all the classes and the concept of PVP is there. Neither are representative of what it was then but you seem to only favor one side over another.
Agreed. The title goes away forever but the mount gets brought back in a different way. Id like that way of doing it as someone who always stops at 1800. I get my outfit and dip before the giant headache of higher rating.
I don’t favor one side or the other, If i had the chance to lock the mythic mounts at the end of raid to THAT season or Tier patch, believe me I would.
Which is exactly the point of the thread, which pointed out the discrepancy between two comparable rewards for achievement but:
I gave the reason, I did not state that I supported Mythic raid mounts being available.
I am also a firm believer that far more rewards should be made over-all, There should be entire Mog sets for M+ achieving greatness, For Mythic specifically achieving greatness that are INDEPENDANT of eachother, Both of them share the same ‘tier’ set.
It should be similar to PVP in that PVP gets it’s own set per season that is entirely to itself and a mount and a title
M+ should get it’s own set entirely too itself and a mount and a title
And Raiding should get it’s own set entirely too itself and a mount and a title
Some rewards should remain post season but the specific stuff such as the Prestige parts no.
However, I also believe that If I achieve greatness on X season with Y character, It should unlock all of those respective rewards account wide for X Season and Y content.
Achieve 2500+ on M+? All the season sets for M+ on that season for all characters is unlocked.
Achieved gladiator and top 0.1% title and mount for all
Achieved mythic End big boss guy? Same deal.
CE mounts are also a symbol of achievement.
Flawed argument, those mounts are boss drops and not tied specifically to an achievement.
It comes across that way because you’re being argumentative against a thread pointing out discrepancy, and by stating that PVP achievements, environment, balancing, and thus difficulty is inaccessible, you imply that the same can’t be said for CE.
Implying that there’s a difference, when there really is not.
But no point being pedantic. Since we clearly agree that there isn’t a difference in concept.
If you saw someone with the mythic mount DURING the expansion, it does mean that you got it during it’s challenge time period
Now wether you bought it or not is all determined by logs, but the majority of buyers won’t pay for a mythic mount
Let me re-phrase then. CE mounts from the current season are a symbol of prestige. It is also tied to a specific achievement during the current season.
If you saw someone with the mythic mount DURING the expansion, it does mean that you got it during it’s challenge time period
Doesn’t change the point I made, you are comparing two completely design systems.
One is a boss drop, one is a prestige mount.
Now wether you bought it or not is all determined by logs, but the majority of buyers won’t pay for a mythic mount
Only further proving my point.
It’s not an argument, but a statement. “Symbol of achievement” is also not limited to a “wow achievement”, if we want to be pedantic.
Both are tied to reaching certain threshold in progress. Both can be earned or paid for. There’s no effective difference.
What’s next? One is a horse and one is a bird?
It is a prestige mount during the current season. Which is one of the reasons I posted this topic. After the season/tier that prestige goes away, but the same cannot be said for Gladiator mounts. I’ve heard some good opinions and had some productive discussions on why this should or shouldn’t be so far, but the fact remains that CE mounts are prestige items briefly then the prestige goes away.
TCG mounts are bought gladiator mounts are earned. Difference. Being a glad normally takes a lot of games and dedication to playing well.
It’s not an argument, but a statement.
if it wasn’t an argument you wouldn’t be trying to defend it by making points. As a statement does not need defending in such a manner.
Both are tied to reaching certain threshold in progress. Both can be earned or paid for. There’s no effective difference.
If this is true, then why do mythic mounts out number gladiators mounts for their specific season and aligned raid tier? I can make many more points that equally prove you incorrect.
What’s next? One is a horse and one is a bird?
When you realize you can’t win a argument, so you resort to fallacies.
Cope harder
Because they’re special.
Do they? I’d be interested in your source for that claim. Not that I’m saying you’re wrong. But if that’s the case then I honestly think that they should adjust the rewards so both are similar since (to me, anyway) they seem like parallel achievements.
A statement can be true or false, and one can disagree on the conclusion being reached. You obviously disagree with that statement, and I disagree with your conclusion. You can look up definitions of what constitutes a statement and a argument but that’s not the point of the thread.
The population size of any given activity has no bearing on what activity they are. Football in the UK has a much larger presence than in Singapore but they are one and the same.
Sure you can, in your opinion, which I disagree with.
Not when I’m responding to a non - sequitur.
So, what really is the difference between both as a symbol of achievement other than your point about one being a boss drop and one being a wow achievement?
So as someone who thinks rewards should be less aimed at the top percent i have a genuine question for you. Why keep them behind such a massive achievement? With the amount of people who earn them already being so few what happens when those people quit WoW?
A mount cant be prestigious if it effectively no longer exists due to the only people who had it no longer being in the game.
dont worry op. the people in this thread that are against you being able to obtain mounts that were removed but they own are the first ones here crying and whining for mounts they dont have to be returned.
you will always have both sides of the spectrum in this horrid place. blizzard just needs to return everything with scaling. so if you are able to do it you can get it. aka herald of the titans title.
another example. plagued proto drake and black proto drake glory to the nax raider. plague proto drake a smudge harder to obtain than the black during its hayday due to it being 25man and the black on 10 man. however the plague is still obtainable via the bmah but the black is not.
bring everyting back i say. who cares. and if you care then you have issues.