Give Worgen Tails (Part 1)

Shirt-wyrmrest-accord · May 23, 2020, 5:53pm

Give. Worgen. Tails.

We already took a hit from the paranoid anti-furry people back in cata butchering the female model. Let us have something nice.

Wolfïe-pagle · May 23, 2020, 5:53pm

Shoudlers are from pvp, the chest is from Sunken Temple, the legs are actually a modified version of the dk starting set (also done by Shearx!)

Utsuhofox-thrall · May 23, 2020, 5:55pm

Wait really? Boss drop or random mob? This warrior might need to go do some sunken temple farming. I figure the legs were modded, but still that’s a nice design I wouldn’t mind seeing in the game.

Araaen-wyrmrest-accord · May 23, 2020, 5:57pm

Yes they were, they were literally a monster in vanilla that people feared.
And then again in the starting quest they are built up in a ‘american werewolf in london’ style setting as the inner monster you struggle to deal with.

Yes I have, you and others are just constantly latching onto the furry thing.
let me repeate one more time.
Worgen are better when they look more like monsters.
They are more interesting when they have a conflicting dynamic of ‘struggle with your inner monster’ They should look like monsters. Adding tails detracts from all of that and just pushes the wolf-furry image which is not intimidating. Worgen should be intimidating.

Also clipping nightmare.

Wolfïe-pagle · May 23, 2020, 5:58pm

I believe it’s from Hakkar, the chest piece is called Warrior’s Embrace

Utsuhofox-thrall · May 23, 2020, 5:59pm

Thanks!

Kotoe-area-52 · May 23, 2020, 6:00pm

nope… ive played the worgen storyline and they were definately very clearly described otherwise, very shortly into the worgen story. one of the npcs even says “you are not a monster” after you turn into one

Lingxiu-the-forgotten-coast · May 23, 2020, 6:00pm

Araaen:

Kotoe:

they were never intended to be this imposing monster though lol

Yes they were, they were literally a monster in vanilla that people feared.
And then again in the starting quest they are built up in a ‘american werewolf in london’ style setting as the inner monster you struggle to deal with.

Lingxiu:

You haven’t provided anything substantive to the debate yourself outside of furry panic because goodness forbid wolf-people get a thing that wolves commonly have.

Yes I have, you and others are just constantly latching onto the furry thing.
let me repeate one more time.
Worgen are better when they look more like monsters.
They are more interesting when they have a conflicting dynamic of ‘struggle with your inner monster’ They should look like monsters. Adding tails detracts from all of that and just pushes the wolf-furry image which is not intimidating. Worgen should be intimidating.

Also clipping nightmare.

The ‘clipping nightmare’ is a total fabrication, evidenced by Wolfie’s posts above. As far as the ‘struggle with your inner monster’, that doesn’t work because, again, WoW’s theming doesn’t allow it to. WoW isn’t a horror game, and Worgen aren’t all slavering monsters ready to go to bat for the taste of blood.

Fiona’s Caravan. Lieutenant Thorn. Just two examples of countless Worgen just doing their best to keep on keeping on.

Kotoe-area-52 · May 23, 2020, 6:01pm

infact gen greymane is the farthest thing from a monster and hes the leader of theworgen. he is by far the most tame and well mannered of the worgen, and is honestly adwyns lapdog almost

Nalin-nesingwary · May 23, 2020, 6:01pm

Give worgen tails.

(Also the model for tailed worgen exists since saurok are reskinned worgen with tails just attached to the model. So all Blizz would have to do is add fur to the saurok model.)

Utsuhofox-thrall · May 23, 2020, 6:04pm

I’ve heard enough of your nonsense. Noone “feared” the worgen. They were just another mob you dealt with in game. Stop inserting your views as replacement for the actual truth.

As Lingxiu said, the clipping nightmare only exists in your head.

Secondly if you ever bothered to do the heritage armor quest for the worgen, you’d learn they do deal with that struggle still every waking moment, and can still pass on the curse via a bite.

They are still fearsome in their own right even looking more natural as they do now and a tail will not change this. Stop derailing this thread and shut. up.

Wolfïe-pagle · May 23, 2020, 6:06pm

Newsflash - SOME WEREWOLVES HAVE TAILS.

Movie: Red Riding Hood

Game: Diablo 2

Game: Elder Scrolls Online

Game: Werewolf the Apocalypse Earthblood (New game that is coming out soon!)

I am also going to leave this for extra measure - OFFICIAL CONCEPT ART BY BLIZZARD:

And here is the second time Genn has been depicted with a tail which was VERY recent:

Kotoe-area-52 · May 23, 2020, 6:07pm

they have a point

Araaen-wyrmrest-accord · May 23, 2020, 6:07pm

Thats funny, go watch the cinematic of him and Sylvanas in Stormheim. As just one example, Graymane and the worgen are frequently portrayed as monsters that should be feared.

NPCs in game, not players.

They are not as fearsome as they should be and adding fluffy tails will detract from that even further. You also just outright admited my point that they are monsters.

Wolfïe-pagle · May 23, 2020, 6:09pm

BIG THING TO NOTE ABOUT THE MODELS I HAVE POSTED:

IT IS NOT DONE BY AN OFFICIAL BLIZZARD ARTIST AND IT IS FAN MADE. EXPECT IT NOT TO BE PERFECT. It is done by the artist Shearx who also is using the alpha female skeleton as opposed to live. Do not use clipping as an excuse now.

Araaen-wyrmrest-accord · May 23, 2020, 6:10pm

every single one of those werewolf images with tails look NOTABLY more monsterous than worgen, its not just about the tail its about the whole package, and worgen in their current state, adding tails will make them look less monsterous.

IF they redesign worgen to look like hulking wolf abominations, then sure, add tails to complament it. but as they stand adding tails makes them look worse.

Also those concept art images are aweful I’m really glad they didn’t go with that design.

Utsuhofox-thrall · May 23, 2020, 6:10pm

Bloody hell Wolfie, that concept art has me wanting to race change my fury warrior here to worgen. That is actually 9 kinds of…well I can’t use the word here on the forums, but you know what I mean!

Lingxiu-the-forgotten-coast · May 23, 2020, 6:12pm

Again, Fiona’s Caravan. Lt. Thorn and Baros. Many Worgen are just fluffy humans in most temperament. This makes sense because, well, they are fluffy humans. What you want are Sons of Arugal which, well, are basically mindless killing machines. Makes for a really bad PC.

Ah, yeah, I too remember when Onyxia surrendered out of pure fear when my Worgen owo’d at her really, really hard.

OK, let’s hear it. What’re your suggestions for ‘more fierce’. Mange? Stitching? C’mon, hit me, you’ve got the floor.

Wolfïe-pagle · May 23, 2020, 6:15pm

Ok Araaen,

Let me ask you this…

In my opinion, i think the problem (when it comes to females) are that the eyes look a bit too cartoony. Now, try and use your imagination here. What if we had a female worgen model with this sort of face as opposed to what you’ve seen in the model screenshots:

This edit was done by me. Not only did I change the eyes to the alpha model, but I also adjusted the ear positioning (not the size though). Either way, imagine that with a tail. Would that be more suffice as more “savage”?

Utsuhofox-thrall · May 23, 2020, 6:21pm

I didn’t admit anything. I said they are still fearsome regardless of the change in look. I still find this look to be a vast improvement over the original. By comparsion to the rest of the Alliance, they are still monsters.

I would say there’s more to being monsterous than just looks, but that point would fly over your head because you’re still stuck in the quagmire of ‘must hate on furries’.

The best thing you can do right now is silence yourself, and go find another thread to bother. I’m sure there’s a few vulpera hate threads floating around you can go echo chamber in.

Now, as I was saying, give worgen tails.