To my knowledge delves don’t drop higher gear after T8. Bountiful T8 drops a 603 and I think gives you a 615 in vault? And T8s are doable, I play ret and soloed all my bountiful T8s while theyve nerfed my healing to the ground, it’s manageable you just have to adjust your play style. Also love the guild name lol
If we had affixes on M0 right now they would be just as tough as old M10. We have scaled up tremendously but so have the enemies. If the enemies hadn’t scaled with us we would be steamrolling them. So to use our scaling as the reason the dungeons have to be harder doesn’t make sense. Everything scales up with us. I personally feel you pretty much should be 590 to effectively take down M0s, it’s easily possible to do it lower but to do it effectively 590 in my eyes should be your goal. Which is crazy because mythic only drops 593
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Lol, if you need 600+ to M0 it’s not the gear that’ the problem, it’s you.
I managed them all the first day in 571s and I’m a bad player
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Heroic+…
You mean Delves? Yes, Delves. We have this already.
Next topic!
Yeah I don’t think I was even fully 571 yet when it was released, and it wasn’t a problem. With no timer there’s no pressure anyway, people should just pull slower if they’re struggling.
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That’s the thing I think, people tried to wall pull and wonder why things went bad and I took them slowly knowing I’d get my fudge packed otherwise.
Lol wut. Imagine thinking an m0 is difficult… lordy lord.
So are you one of the bad players also? How do you quantify a “bad” player? You didn’t clear the normal raid, does that make you a bad player? Are you bad because you only have 1 boss down in heroic? What about battle pets, do you have all the hardest fights completed? Have you maxed out your professions yet? Do you have all your PVP gear and score maxed?
People play at their own pace and in their own ways. Don’t call someone who doesn’t play the game the way you do, or on the difficulty you do, bad. They may not have the time to dedicate to become proficient at M+ or heroic raid difficulty clears.
Think about things from another person’s perspective, not just your own, and life will become much easier.
It can be, and it’s definitely noticable when people ignore mechanics and don’t interrupt/stop.
It can go from a disaster to cake with just the implementation of everyone doing their interrupt/stops
What they need to do is this
Group Finder Normal No change
Group Finder Heroic No change
ADD
Group finder HS1 Dungeons (In this setting players can Que for Random H Dungeons that are the Same as Season 1 rotation so players can get a feel for the dungeons and see what they are like) Players who prefer to only do TWW H dungeons we recommend you do Regular Heroic Dungeons instead.
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Would you like some help clearing some M0s? I will happily put a group together and run you through some if you would like. Leave a response to this if you are interested, and I will friend request you and set up a time.
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Did you try not standing in fire?
I like your char name 
I’m far from elite. I’ve stepped into 3 mythic dungeons ever before War Within. M0 has been surprisingly smooth actually.
There are a few mechanics you need to learn, yes I’ve been blown up a few times, but once you know them, not bad at all. I haven’t experienced any elitism – yet.
And the fact that things live longer, so you have time for dps: I gotta say, blasting for 1.5M-2M dps on aoe packs is fun!
Do you even run mythics?
Heroic should be around M5, Normal around what heroic is now (at 80), and Mythic 0 can stay Mythic 0.
Do you? Lol
I’m 608 a m0 is a literal joke. Feels easier than normals did at level 72
Find me a few of them. I’d like to see these players.
I’m Halfway through nerub-ar heroic, M0s are on farm. I only asked if you ran them because your toon on the forums is only lvl 70.
Well ive been using this character for years and years and years on this forum. With nearly 7,000 posts, ppl know the character.
Not going to swap it depending on what i decide to play each patch