Give us Battlegrounds

Holycow-uldaman · November 17, 2019, 9:19pm

Battlegrounds might not fix this issue if the faction imbalance is significant.

If bgs end up with long queue times, players will continue to farm HKs while they wait for their queues to pop.

Galdor-maelstrom · November 17, 2019, 9:23pm

They won’t.

Holycow-uldaman · November 17, 2019, 9:24pm

Guess we’ll see.

Ceeyoo-aegwynn · November 17, 2019, 9:25pm

Woukd you and clickybait have this same gloatfest with lower population caps?

Besides: what are winning by calling people weak and yelling at them for leaving?

You know that scene, in movies, where the innocent family has to sneak away from the house with the mad guy inside it?

Dont be that mad guy, Harmondale.

Pepefeet-thalnos · November 17, 2019, 9:41pm

there is no one for us to kill bro thats what we complaining about

Hoodie-earthfury · November 17, 2019, 10:05pm

… you should probably read it… not very wise to be uninformed on something but still comment on it even tho youre wrong lol…

Scarsnik-arcanite-reaper · November 17, 2019, 10:13pm

Says the guy on a pvp server.

Scarletgrey-bigglesworth · November 17, 2019, 10:21pm

Mazie:

Phase 2 has been highlighting how bad the faction imbalances really are. I am a horde player on a horde dominant server and you can really see how bad it is when you go to Thorium point, Blackrock mountain, hillsbrad foothills.

On the first day, after the Alliance gave up in Southshore, i was ganking a grp lvl 50s over and over as that was the only way to gain honor. Those guys, even though they took rez sickness, we found them at the graveyard and kept killing them on the way to their town. They could not hearth. It took them about 40 minutes to finally escape the Horde. It had nothing to do with skill.

This is not fun for me and is not fun for them. People have posted solutions or ideas - here’s one that i really like - https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/dear-blizz-activision/365944

I play on a PvP server but i came here because all of my friends did. The biggest thing about wow classic is its community. The game is fun because you feel part of team that’s working towards certain goals - whether they be clearing content or ranking.

In my opinion this is the most important thing about classic. Phase 2 world domination pvp is going to make alot of these communities shatter because:

Max honor gain is in 1-5man groups which means people are shutting out people regardless of skill because its the best way to gain honor.
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People on the dominated side of the server legit cannot play the game. Who cares if they rolled on a PvP server. This isn’t player vs player. This is Player vs Zerg. My group has delayed raid teams from starting by at least 30mins by ganking key targets. And while that’s fun for us, i am wholly aware of the impact of a game not being fun for long period of time for the opposite faction. That gives us incrementally smaller players to fight against over time and also directly impacts Activision’s bottom-line by cutting down on subscribers. And once they quit, it’s going to be harder for you to get them back.
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People are not enjoying your game. I’m grinding my honor like the rest of them because we want to hit r13/14, but its just not fun sitting INSIDE Southshore killing people who fly in. It is not fun begging for them to come outside of Ironforge and seeing how defeated they are they just dont engage a party of 10-15 despite outnumbering us. It is not fun killing a lvl 51 hunter over and over because he’s the only one out in the world.

I get it. Right, this is classic. But people are not having fun in your game in Phase 2 because our only method of Honor gain is pummeling people into submission. I can’t imagine it is fun for them either. The easy solution is to turn on a battleground and get us going. Turn off BG rewards if you have to, we don’t care. But my friends have already been looking to quit because they wanted pvp and played on a pvp server and we’re not even getting that because of our lopsided faction balance.
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Do not overthink the solution. Give us BGs.

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Osl-thalnos · November 17, 2019, 10:25pm

takes about a minute to read. maybe 3 if your dyslexic.

Crackore-arugal-775847 · November 17, 2019, 10:36pm

I rolled here because my friends did…lol

You followed the sheep blindly on to a PVP server…

AND now because the sheep are looking to quit your going to follow suit…

All I hear is …Whhaaaaaaa…from another tourist.

Please quit and end your suffering.

Ohshiftson-stalagg · November 17, 2019, 10:41pm

As a member of the consistently dominated faction…

No. Phase 2 is one of the big reasons I was excited for Classic. World PvP and PvP ranks without just farming WSG/AV is one of the best times in WoW.

Wensten-sargeras · November 17, 2019, 10:59pm

Reroll retail nerd

Norse-thalnos · November 17, 2019, 11:25pm

We aren’t looking to quit, we are bored. There are no alliance for us to kill, they retreat anytime Horde shows up. We slaughter them on every corner, of every map. They have to stay inside of Alliance Controlled zones and drop their flags to catch a break.

It really isn’t even PvP at this point, it’s Horde vs Alliance Ghosts. They might as well be playing retail, cause they are spending most of their time in the Shadowlands.

Madtweak-heartseeker · November 18, 2019, 12:42am

battlegrounds are cross realm queue times will not be an issue

Shayerahol-azralon · November 18, 2019, 4:48pm

They are the first wave of testers in pre-alpha of the shadowlands

Lights-proudmoore · November 18, 2019, 4:49pm

Y’all wanted classic, vanilla pvp… Well, here it is!

Wait until people start the GM grind - the forums will be fun

Bahlam-thalnos · November 19, 2019, 4:43pm

Totally agree with the OP. As a life long horde player I have to say I preferred vanilla, where the disparity was heavily tilted to the alliance side. Nowadays the server feels like a ghost town because there simply isn’t enough alliance players. No one wants to spend $15 a month to sit in a graveyard or camp a lifeless body.

Leffycleanse-kromcrush · November 19, 2019, 4:54pm

I don’t really care what happens. Wpvp will always be there with or without BGs. The one thing that drives me bonkers is on my server at least (kromcrush) is you can’t get a decent group of alliance to join. When you do and you go out and have a decent even fight it doesn’t matter because when you kill the Horde a thousand more show up out of nowhere.

I swear they come out of the ground somehow. I don’t know how they do it but they come up from the ground.

Xj-faerlina · November 19, 2019, 4:58pm

I must be remembering wrong. On Nostalrius PvP for me it was rushing to 60 then rushing into bgs whenever I wasn’t in preraid groups to hit rank 14. There wasn’t much world pvp past some guilds contesting others outside MC for memes, most ranking took place in BGs.

I’m glad for the change of pace. I absolutely hate bgs and they brought WoW its first step into instancing the pvp which destroyed world pvp and made it ineffective. The second step to annihilating world pvp was flying which destroyed what precious little of it actually remained. The only change I would suggest is if they’re going to roll cross realm bgs out with bg release and destroy server identity as far as server premade hotshots they might as well have taken the other half of the pvp update of 1.12 and given us Silithyst geysers in Silithus and the EPL towers. Or just the EPL towers, silithyst was a dumb idea.

Mazie-thalnos · November 20, 2019, 2:57pm

The state of the honor grind is killing it for people who WANT to PvP. It isnt fun having to 50vs 1 someone over and over hoping you can get the most honor. That isn’t player vs player and it isnt competitive at all. It’s just making the other side want to abandon the game.