Give the ability to exchange Core Forged for Draconic Set Bonuses

Aggrend doesn’t care. Grind out another set because just like MC, ST, Gnomer, and BFD, the tier drops are plentiful.

you know , i would agree with the sentiment to not allow for a switch if sod hadnt gone already as far as it has but…

it is too far gone for it to really be an issue and its an experimental server.

simply put , i dont see a reason why they shouldnt allow for the switching.

they dont even have to let you keep the enchants on the gear either so people would have to re enchant it which helps the economy.

im just seeing pluses and not enough negatives to really be against this.

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Okay the conversation can go places from here!

This is probably true, as I am unsure if he plays anymore. Plus, why would a dev care about this?

Okay, this is a valid argument. But I am unsure how true it is. Most people that play raids have a main-spec and an off-spec. In a raiding guild, you are extremely likely to get your full main-spec tier set. To give an idea in MC where we did HL3 for a majority of the phase I got my full tier set and 4/8 for my Ret off-spec. This is troubling for a couple of reasons:

  1. It feels about right if you’re in a consistent group to get your full MS set, and a little bit of your OS set by the end of the phase. It would feel like too much if you got your full OS set and there was tier just getting thrown away by the end.
  2. With the inability to switch, some classes that would like to try the other set bonuses out, are now forced to go for 3 sets instead of 2 or sacking their OS (ret for me). This is because you are extremely likely not going to see 3 sets of your tier go to you within even the phase after BWL. It doesn’t feel classic to not have an OS.

another problem with the “just get an offset of gear” would be the bag space that is already an issue for a number of classes who have to carry more sets than normal anyways on top of consumes and everything else.

being able to freely switch would be a godsend for these people (i am one of them with limited bag space).

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Posting this again because you were too stubborn to look. This is working as intended. Grind out another set. Your feelings are irrelevant.

heh they have changed their mind on way more than 1 occasion so they might be convinced to change on this one too.

you never know.

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Wasn’t stubborn, your link wasn’t working so I had to find the post. I read this, and he may be a WoW dev, but that doesn’t mean he is always right. For a matter of fact, the best opinions on this are from the players who raid every week with a guild. The reason being that we truly know how much tier drops within a phase.

Agree with this idea. No point in turning them into coreforged since bis will end up draconic. So T2 is still sitting in the bag until I have enough of it.

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The Devs arent even in agreement, Zirene said he supported this but other devs didnt want to.

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Nonsense. If we followed your statement to the end, then classic WoW wouldn’t even be a thing since the “feelings” of the playerbase differing from the devs is why any form of classic wow even exists to begin with.

Are you suggesting people simply have no discourse on anything ever since the way current things are is the way things are intended? Why even have WoW forums? Like what?

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Shame they didn’t (couldn’t??) make it so the set bonuses were gems that you socketed into ‘Tier Armor’. Be sweet to mix 'n match set bonuses.

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If they want to make life nice, just make them work like Benediction/Anathema. Just use the item and it switches bonuses, done and done. They could even do this for AQ because we know they can do 3 item rotations (like they did with the mage class item staff).

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Thing that sucked for me, had to change my set to 4/4 and 4/4 once i got 8/8.

Rip to my +4 stats to chest

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There’s no way. Guilds that do H1/H2 have tokens going to rot, with the entire raid having a MS and OS set. You guys either had horrible RNG on the class token you needed, or you’re just being dishonest. There were MORE than enough tokens in MC going around, and if you have a raid team with more than 1 collective brain cell, you should be getting 3 chests at the end of every BWL.

Plenty of loot, getting a second or third set from BWL before next phase is not hard to do. We already have people with a full T2 set and working on their second.

We did have absolutely dog water RNG on the pally, hunter tier. We saw our other tier pieces get 2-3 sets in p1 of the game because of the lack of pally, hunter tier. We were likely just unlucky. In our guild for BWL, we have run the BWL 3 affix since the second week. The first week, we did 2 nights and it removed affixes. I currently have 4/8 t2, mainly because we run a 2SR system and I usually wait till the end to get tier because of items like Rejuvenating Gem and Pure Elementium Band for healers. In this phase with tier drops, I can see myself getting a second set. A third though is very unlikely unless this is going to be a 3 month phase. Also, it feels like a waste of a third-tier set if all I want to do is give the whole damage converting to healing on Pally a shot, then proceed to realize it is terrible and go straight back to Core Forged. Now you can argue here that I shouldn’t have converted and instead just sacked my healing for the first X weeks to try it once which is fair.

Yea yeah ok

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Subscription fees still being charged and devs are silent

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Yeah AQ better be good lol

This change just makes sense, there is no downside to it from a player perspective
Why wouldnt they want us experimenting with builds/gear in SOD?

The current forging setup just feels bad, players are penalized for trying to discover and test alternate gear setups. Feels like complete time gating nonsense.

Dont tell me to re-grind tier either, I play 4 toons, thats not a realistic answer for many of us.

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How else do you make “infinite content” from “finite resources”.

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