I feel like you didn’t read what I wrote. I’m not asking for them to remove it, just some how give the option for a bow
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/eats chili fries while wielding a sword as a survival
im good as melee for survival…
I did read what was written, the issue however is as others have said.
Either the option for the bow is better and people have to use it to be competitive and the melee way falls to the wayside, or the melee is better and the bow does.
In a perfect world they would be equally balanced so either would be viable, if such a thing were implemented the chance of that being the case is very unlikely.
That or in order to make a ranged style of it viable they would have to dramatically change the playstyle from how it is, and thus make it less enjoyable to those who like it as it is.
I agree with this suggestion and fully support it. Melee is ok, if you want to be a troll spear hunting or a kul’tiran with a harpoon for Rp reasons but ranged on it should still be an option for Survival.
If they make Survival ranged again, I’m just going to delete my Hunter. Only reason I made one was for the melee spec.
I’d kinda like to see survival become something similar to ff14 red mage, a hybrid melee ranged. Give them dual hand crossbows (they already use one for their stings) and give em the ability to harpoon in to melee, then disengage out to shoot.
Oh and if they ever got a 4th spec, it has to be a healer who can autoattack allies with healing darts
First, this is hypocritical, make melee better so people have to play it, even those who prefer ranged. Sorry, but if they gave the option, both would have to be equal so everyone has their choice.
Secondly, to those saying, but but you have 2 other ranged specs, doesn’t solve the issue at hand of those 2 specs playing nothing like old RSV. So no that is not a good solution. That would be like me saying, if you want melee with a pet, play Unholy DK, oh, what’s that you say, it doesn’t play like melee SV.
Tbh, the only real viable solution would be bring RSV back as a 4th spec. Melee can keep their spec, and people who lost their preferred spec has it returned to them.
As I’ve said before, when Blizz did the SV hunter change, some people felt like their character was essentially deleted.
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THey still do in remote parts of the world .
But seeing how the player characters in WoW are more based off of what would be considered a more advanced society guns and bows make more sense.
Pretty much they went to Surv and went you no longer know how to shoot you cave man now must hunt with spear bring back big kodo make rest of cave proud.
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Same happened to me, as a Demo Lock. My spec was deleted.
I got mad. So I understand how you feel.
But survival had the same fantasy as MM. Hunting with a bow or gun. Now it’s a different fantasy. The Hunter Class became more wholesome for that.
Even if your rotation is different now, your Hunter who hunts things with a bow or gun can still do that. And now you can hunt with a spear if you like it.
Keep in mind that WoW weapons are magic, and a guy with a sword one-shot a giant robot. Technological advancement means little lol
I would like to see Dk frost with 2 hands weapon skills and builds again.
Please Blizzard make it happens lol
If Blizzard added a fourth spec so those who enjoyed the pre-legion Survival could have it back that’d be optimal, that playstyle could be back for those that enjoy it without destroying the unique playstyle which those who play current Survival enjoy.
Unfortunately I don’t feel fourth specs for non-druids will come soon if they do.
I love survival tbh. It goes with my aesthetic of being a hidden tracker whose been waiting for the perfect opportunity to hunt down their prey and drive a spear through them with their pet. Especially great when I’m hunting down vulpera.
I’m also not opposed to survival going ranged like one option for melee and the other for ranged, but knowing Blizz is an indie development company do you guys really think that they could afford to balance those things for player enjoyment?
This is flawed. Give Survival a bow all you want, but it still doesn’t bring back the old Survival. The one that was one of the most popular specs in the game for the majority of its lifespan. No, to make all hunters happy, Survival returning back as it once was is needed. Keep melee Survival for those who enjoy it, but it’s downright greedy for the MSV fans to start asking for MSV with a bow, which still spits on the face of everyone who lost our spec of over a decade.
Keep MSV as it is. Bring back the OLD Survival back as a fourth spec for those of us who lost our spec and still long for it to come back.
Would take way more than that. Considering Survival no longer has Black Arrow and Explosive Shot. Nor Serpent Spread as a passive, among other things. If any spec deserves a talent that enables one to decide between melee or ranged, its Beast Mastery. That way players can have the choice to be more like Rexxar. But just letting the current MSV use a bow, doesn’t make it RSV. And I’m sorry but if MSV did get the option to be ranged(abilities the same, just coded to work at ranged), it’d literally be a BM clone.
Bring back the OLD Survival. The spec that focused on dot damage and aoe while being mobile. Leave BM, MSV and MM alone(or maybe tweak MM so it doesn’t suck as bad). Then, everyone can be happy, including all of us folks who are still disgruntled after having our spec deleted over night.
You know Mortis, I like you, and tend to agree with you but. You are so laughably wrong on this. MM was the sniper spec, literally taking aim to do hard hitting shots and as a result it had some nutty burst. Survival was the spec that focused on traps and dot damage while doing consistent damage. Saying SV had the same fantasy as MM is like saying Affliction has the same fantasy as Destruction.
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What about everyone that was forced to change spec because they removed a range spec to add to an over abundant amount of melee specs?
What was the last dps range class or spec added since Vanilla because all I have seen for range is healers (Mistweaver Monk) and for DPS it has all been Melee (DK, Windwalker and DH)
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Where are mine?
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I would rather the old come back but it won’t and like I said give people the option through talents.
If the person wants range let them pick BA and make it so it is like the old BA that triggered L&L make Explosive a talent and make it the old school fire and forget
Make Serpent spread a passive talent.
I’m still bitter over the lie they told us when they said they were giving MM some the old abilities of rsurv and made them so bad that no one took them just so they could get rid of those abilities .
THey made BA in Legion bad and was gone in BfA . They made ExPL bad in BfA and I fully expect it to be gone in SL.
If that’s what they were going for, old Survival failed spectacularly at fantasy.
Because I remember it being mostly about Black Arrow, Serpent Sting, Arcane Shot, Kill Shot, Explosive Shot and Lock and Load procs.
Like I said, it’d take way more than that though. To make old ranged Survival possible via talents for melee Survival would take a lot more than just talents. Blizzard has already tried this too btw, with MM. Even going so far to put Black Arrow and Explosive Shot(disgrace to the old Explosive Shot but I digress).
You addressed this, so you should be fully aware of how you can’t really make a spec through talents alone. Bringing it back as a fourth spec is literally the easiest thing.
I think you are legit trolling now. Read what you said. Read what I said. Consistent dot damage. Black Arrow, Serpent Sting, Explosive Shot, the core abilities for old Survival…were all dots. And it excelled at AoE due to Serpent Spread via Multi Shot. Explosive Trap being thrown into AoE to trigger Lock and Load for Explosive Shot spam. It’s entire premise was a mobile dot spec and it was the spec that enhanced traps. It fulfilled the fantasy of a mobile tracker using poisons and explosives quite well in my opinion, the only outlier was Black Arrow but that could’ve easily been renamed and recolored to make it more inline of everything else but I digress.
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