I mean, to be fair, we can simplify it past even this, only two things in the universe really have basic, fundamental value: time and effort (energy) spent… and what you need to DO that effort, in other words… continued existence and work… over the bare necessities to live and do the former.
Labor itself leveraged over food and shelter.
and now we’re at a point where labor is largely divorced from value through the magic of capital 
Yes and no.
You’re not wrong but it’s way broader than that. Literally everything in game is for sale. Mythic clears, high keys, gladiator carries, rare cosmetics, everything. It can all be bought with gold. You can buy gold with real money so quite literally everything in the game is for sale for real money.
So real money has meant you get a better game for a very long time.
and it always will, for every game ever, as long as money exists. there’s no game you can’t pay somebody to play for you.
Lots of people these days have a super ultra broad definition of pay 2 win.
It’s not even worth arguing anymore but I do think $90 for a mount alone is ridiculous. Good think I wouldn’t have bought it for half that (I don’t like the bronto mounts to me they look stupid.
But anyway have a good weekend.
Not like the early access was any indication, right?
p2w has always and will always mean anything that you can pay for that gives even the smallest iota of advantage in game.
p2w has never ment a red button you press that finishes the game.
a lot of dumb people tend to not understand the difference.
so yes, wow has been p2w for a long, long time.
to me it has always meant a game where you move pieces on a board. so chess is a p2w game and anyone who doesn’t agree is a nincompoop.
That came with giant risks to your account being banned.
This is fully legal and authorized. Zero risk and even marketed.
It’s far more accessible now and more people are going to do it when its not bannable.
Surely you’re not naive enough to understand this.
if you are just basing it off your head canon then believe whatever you want, but the broader generally accepted definition of p2w has always and will always be anything that you can pay for that gives even the smallest iota of advantage in game.
It is literally so easy to get from point A to point B that I can’t think of a single time I would ever need the ‘convenience’ of a mailbox/AH mount. People who had it benefited greatly during SL because Oribos had no AH. Dornogal has one, however.
Quit trying to have others justify your perceived need for a $90 mount, OP.
Just admit you’re a slackjawed consumer.
No if that were the case then they would still allow multiboxing cuz that brought them in thousands of $ per multiboxer. And they would also have it to where it was still one mount per toon so that you had to buy each store mount for each toon. Now they are all account bound. I used to buy each store mount for each one of my toons but don’t have to anymore as they are all account bound.
yeah, but so many people here think transmog or mounts give an advantage, so it’s a pointless discussion
you’ve never had to summon somebody back to a raid/dungeon because they’re out of consumables?
if the transmog or mount gives you an advantage in game that you would otherwise not have without buying it then yes, it qualifies as p2w.
The first Brutosaur was 5 million in gold. Right now in NA a WoW token is 252K gold so that’s basically $400 in gold. If you were playing in BFA you could directly just buy it this way.
$90 is actually cheap, in comparison.
My only criticism is they should’ve chosen a different model IMHO.
no mounts give you an advantage in game.
Not even once.
then i’m impressed you always play with such organized people
None likely, but there have been some complaints that someone won a BG because they were able to get on their bruto and buy something…
IF its actually a problem, fix it.
but who knows with all the whining in here what IS legit and what ISNT lol
ah. a stupid person. good to know.