Talk about belittling snark. So according to you, and your post history, anyone with any type of disability is not allowed to play video games, let alone WoW. You sir, are a pinnacle of physical and mental power that every one should strive to be.
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We hated LFR because you could get a titan forged piece of gear on par with mythic loot which is insane. Now that titan forging is going away, I feel like a lot of the hate will go with it.
LFR raiders don’t deserve mythic loot, and for that matter, neither do normal or heroic raiders.
And this is coming from someone who only gets aotc and has no desire for CE.
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lol, how did I know you’d go this route? Resorting to demonization. Try logic instead of feelings. Steps should be taken to make people with disabilities able to play where possible, but content quality shouldn’t suffer for it.
You are one to talk. You’re entire history is you claiming to be better than everyone and you insult anyone who doesn’t agree with you. I dont claim to be better than anyone, unlike you and your lot.
But, hey you have also clearly stated also before that deaf players have no right and no place in the game, nor the world as well. So. I guess you do you.
That right, go through your own history to start deleting your posts on it. Start playing that victim card.
Oh look, more name-calling and demonization in place of arguments. Your “lots” entire game is to demonize Bliz and anyone they don’t agree with. All I’m trying to get to is actual discussion that actually involves game mechanics and how/why they function like they do, until then, the only thing left to criticize the people who refuse to go there.
It’s a little hard to have a discussion when whatever you say is met with “stop trying to control how I play”.
What happens when you don’t finish the entire raid, and the pug moves on without you? What if that happens every week for months? Are people with hectic schedules just not allowed to finish the raid? I have enough time to log in, and do one wing (at most). Am I not allowed to finish the raid? Why am I to now suffer the process of looking for a raid that starts on the fifth boss in a raid? Your perfect view of everyone having enough time to finish a raid in a few hours, or that every pug will go smoothly enough for someone with (again) limited time is naive, and very incorrect.
Sounds like everything else in WoW.
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Because people hate fun, and think if you’re not as miserable as they are, somethings wrong.
Sounds like a way to get hired by Blizzard.
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You can solo them right when you hit 120? That’s what were talking about here. Sure, you can solo them if you already have raid gear, but not right when you hit 120.
What exactly are you lashing out about? I’ve said I’m not advocating for LFRs removal…twice in fact. I accept that for some people lfr is all they want to do and that’s perfectly fine. For the poster I was responding to, who said he isn’t lazy or bad but does lfr because he can’t commit to a set schedule, I was merely pointing out there are other options. It’s been my experience with both lfr and normal pugs that the normal pugs go much smoother and usually take less time than waiting for the lfr queue to pop. Hell most groups can probably full clear EP before an LFR Circle of Stars queue pops and kills the 2 bosses.
And I was just pointing out that your thoughts about joining a pug are skewed. Maybe it is easy to get in at the start of a pug, but what about not finishing that pug raid? What if you never have time to finish an entire raid? Then you’re left to the mercy of finding a group that needs someone starting at boss five, or six. Maybe you aren’t saying “remove LFR,” but you also aren’t thinking fully about people with limited time. A problem that does not exist with LFR.
You’re right, I wasn’t thinking of hypothetical people. I was thinking of the one poster who I specifically responded to.
Lol, as if people with limited time to play this game are rare. You responded to me, a person in this “hypothetical” situation. Are we the only two people in the entire playerbase in this situation? Not even close. Those “hypothetical” people exists, which is why LFR exists, and is so popular in the community as a whole.
You can’t play the uninformed card when you are trying to prove a point, which is normal raiding could easily replace LFR. It cannot.
I love Mythic mode but I agree with you - the 20 men limit is causing serious guild issues once again with raids either not happening because there aren’t enough attending or people leaving because there are too many people in the guild and they can’t join for an extended period of time. Normal and Heroic with flexible raid size would make life a lot easier, and I’m all for making Heroic a few notches more difficult than the joke that they are right now to match mythic experience.
Dude what the hell are you on about. I never said you could replace lfr. In fact, when you and someone else jumped all over my comment saying “what about (insert hypothetical group of people)?” I said “LFR is there for them.” I was specifically addressing the poster who said he’s not lazy or bad but does lfr because he can’t commit to a set raid schedule. At no point in any of my replaces to anyone did I ever say everybody that does lfr should just do normal, nor would I ever make such a ridiculous claim. I fully realize that there are plenty people that have constraints on their time/ability that makes lfr the ideal solution to raiding for them, however I wasn’t addressing those people with my comment, I was only addressing Delice.
This ^^^ The game and its entirety is for everyone who want to play and enjoy everything,yet these very e-snobs seem Hellbent on taking that joy away from people because they prefer players who don’t conform to their ideals on what progression is to suffer and not progress AKA they’re anti-casual AF. A vast majority of players use LFR and despite what some posters say here,the alleged AFK fest is nothing more than fake news trying to push a narrative. From my experiences doing raid finder on DPS alts,people are consistantly moving outside of someone needing to step away for a quick bio and are more often than not gone no longer than said bio.
Anyone who does try to troll and disrupt the run often get kicked,are there road bumps here and there? Perhaps but that’s any dungeon or raid run regardless of difficulty. Blizzard would gain nothing in alienating the player majority just to appease an elitist,entitled minority who think themselves the upper echelon to gaming when in reality they just perpetuate the stereotype that the gaming community is unwelcoming,hostile and gatekeepy AF trying to protect the sacred hobby from the “evil casual normie invaders.” Yes,SOME [not all] who do perceive casual gamers as invaders and do openly try to drive them away.
Doesn’t help road blocks have been put into other means of progression by said players ranging from 3rd party add ons used for shaming and belittling to heavy streamer influence and their impressionable viewerbase who see their opinions as factual law. LFR gets taken away,Blizzard will either see a HUGE dip of people leaving the game faster than the flying debacle or the end of raiding/endgame because again,no point in making content only a very small percentile of people can enjoy letting the rich get richer and the poor getting poorer.
Dunno about anyone else ,I play a video game to unwind and have fun with its entirety I paid hard earned money for when given the time,not to tout some false sense of superiority over others for the crime of not having the luck of the schedule draw [or in some cases more disposable income that doesnt have to go to food,bills,student loans and mortgage] Not everyone cares about the shallow social hierarchy that plagues gaming and just wanna play. [which QoL features like LFR permits]
TLDR I agree with Avengement and the anti LFR need to just stuff it and let other people have nice things instead of lobby to take content away from them.
Edit- Why is it almost always an HMP making these dumb,detrimental suggestions?!
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You have a vaild point. in the way i do things your right Sometimes my LFR never popped. we never completed it or we had trolls that showed up causing us to wipe. but i learn mechanics that way not being a big detriment to the group.
Except for real raiding, and perhaps some M+
People can do raids and M+ dungeons without effort, planning, etc… as well. I don’t get what you’re trying to prove here?