Gear brackets

Neither team is full conquest or full honor, but rather a mix of gear.
On top of that, generally both teams have a premade on their side.

There is nothing to fix.
Random BG is intended to be a mix of players with mixed gear on a random battleground map.
If you want to control gear on your teams then do rated.

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LOL @ “gear brackets”. How dumb does someone have to be to suggest that?

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explain how it’s dumb oh hidden profile troll

WHat needs to happen is randoms need to be gear capped at 437 or everything becomes rated and only 1 set of pvp gear.

You do this every time you post. It’s getting old, kid.

that is just nonsense honestly lol honor and conquest gear is fine but when there is such a big difference people trying to gear just get destroyed by fully geared people and that’s not fun, I would much rather have a good fight then just smash some honor geared new toon. It would also help people gear out because they would have a higher chance of winning if they did not go against teams of fully geared “friends” lol honestly, I think it’s just those exploiters that want to stomp low geared pugs and don’t want to have fair fights because they will lose more often. Why not just give it a try and see what happens?

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Neither team is full conquest or full honor, but rather a mix of gear.
On top of that, generally both teams have a premade on their side.

There is nothing to fix.
Random BG is intended to be a mix of players with mixed gear on a random battleground map.
If you want to control gear on your teams then do rated.

Would you care to address my post or are you just going to keep creating hypotheticals for your narrative?

i did you must not have read it.

Can’t read what doesn’t exist.
If you disagree then link the post for me.

I like this idea and jt should be added to the removal of factions in bgs. It should be fully randomized to help remove the disparity if skill, activity, and with this, item levels keeping all bgs feeling relatively even and winnable.

Also let me turn off backfilling. Who has ever liked backfilling into losing games.

well you seem to just be trolling because you even quoted my response so… meh

Bit it would stop fresh 70 who hasnt bothered looking at their gear since lvl 20 and has several heirlooms on from queing instantlu without putting some effort into getting minimal gear to compete at lvl 70.

My fresh lvl 70 mage went into first 70 bg and had 434 ilvl and 500k hp.

Standing next to me was another fresh level 70 with barly 200k hp.

Its not hard to put the smallest amount of effort in to gearing before queueing up as a fresh 70 just like literally any other content in the game.

gear brackets would fix that lol

lol this again? I mean I think I geared out my demon hunter in full 437 gear in a few hours of epics. and Epics arent even pvp…Im not sure why its so hard for people to gear up. like…even a tiny tiny tiny bit of effort and your in maxed out honor set. after that the conq grind is a bit more…but cap will be removed and you can conq out in a half a day of rbgs.

seriouslly just people just want everything handed to them

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You’re not responding to me. You’re responding to Madmargret.
Let’s go ahead and assume you clicked Reply to the wrong person.

  • You insist that teams are either fully geared or are entirely lacking in gear. This is incorrect. Teams are a mix of gear, as I said.
  • Let’s say a fresh 70 jumped into BGs without taking an hour to gear up from the WQs and upgrades or just go to the auction house to buy 379 gear for less than 1k gold each. It is very fast to get Honor gear. A single epic BG can net 1000 honor which is enough for multiple pieces of gear. Frankly, if you don’t even bother with bare minimum effort to get some cheap AH gear or WQ gear then you deserve to be GY camped for gimping your team.
  • Random BGs are not intended to be gear balanced. It is, once again as I already said, random gear on random people in a random map.
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wtf are you talking about XD nobody is saying they want stuff handed to them… I also never said it was hard to gear out because it’s not, but it is painful when you are trying to get that honor gear and you are just getting smashed by full geared “friend” groups it’s not fun and most people aren’t going to do it hence why pvp is dying off because no new players want anything to do with it.

Your idea isn’t new, and every time it’s brought up, it is again pointed out that further separating an already incredibly small population would cause battleground wait times to skyrocket.

tl;dr :

you seem to lack being able to read and only saw what you wanted to see XD first off, I never “insisted that teams are either full geared or are lacking in gear” I said that “friend” groups are very very common that is indeed fact and new players going in even with full crafted or full honor get smashed by people in full conquest, that is indeed factual. and sure back in the day when the game had a lot more newer players and not a bunch of robots that just followed a streamer guide and build to do anything at all then sure bg’s where a big mix but it’s not like that anymore… pvp is dying… that is fact, to bring in more players something like gear brackets would help a lot to allow these newer players to enjoy pvp and still be able to gear up and as they geared and got better they would go against people at there level it’s the same as the way ranking works lol but to be fully honestly it’s simply because the “friend” groups just want pugs with bad gear to stoke there ego and make them feel good they simply don’t want a fair fight or they would go play ranked.

Take a breath, homie.

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See here.

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Correct, people playing a multiplayer game are playing together on both Horde and Alliance. I stated this myself. Wins and losses go both ways. That’s how player-versus-player games work.

It is like that. You can see this when you play random BGs.
But let’s say it isn’t. What does that mean for your own argument then? Are they fully geared or are they completely lacking gear? You just said that you weren’t insisting on this. So which is it?

That’s what happens when the entire game is dying. Player numbers go down, PvE/PvP activity numbers also go down. Take a look at the Mythic+ activity charts.
https://i.redd.it/m9lutckwhp8b1.png

  • To bring in new players the game needs more/new players, and that just isn’t happening.
  • As has already been said, multiple times by multiple people, there is no gearing issue. Win or lose, acquiring Honor gear is fast.

Premades queue regardless of gear. I am not going to deny my friend just because their gear is not optimal. It may be a hard pill for you to swallow but some people just like playing with others. I understand if this concept is alien to you, and given your whiny victim fetish attitude I can see why people don’t play with you.

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