Gating Flying Was Blizzards Worst Decision

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Incorrect statement, previous expacs had a lot more subs, quite likely more than three times what Legion had(WotLK I’m looking at you). Personally, I hated everything but the Suramar storyline about Legion.

When people think that’s the only thing left to do, that’s a serious failure on the part of the dev team for making too little content or content that was not engaging enough to replay, or even play the first time for that matter.

Of course you realize that you are not the only person that plays WoW and that many other people enjoy in-game flight a great deal. Furthermore, even if flight is implemented, you have the choice not to use it of course. And don’t give me that crap that if everyone else has it, you NEED it too to keep up, stick to your guns if you really mean it, chuckles. All the meaningful content is in instances and tradeskills are garbage this expac(IMO), so needing flight to gather mats for useless skills to get to nodes that can be multi-tapped anyway, is not really a good argument.

You seem to be enjoying no flight, good for you, I’m glad you’re happy, but you would rather see that choice taken from others? Why? Are you just sadistic or do you lack the foresight to realize that when people aren’t having fun in a game, they don’t play it? Which means fewer people for you to interact with, run instances with, buy your mats for what few items that can be sold that you can make this expac.

Removing or severely limiting very popular QOL features, and yes flight is very popular, no matter what the “vocal minority” no-flight community thinks, is just a good way to drive away customers. Customers generally have the attitude “I pay, I say.”, and when you start losing money to the competition because you can’t seem to acknowledge that, at least somewhat, they are right, then the devs, and anyone else that thinks flight should be removed from the game or severely limited(as it has been) are willfully ignorant of the simple facts of business: Satisfy your customers or lose money.

Semper Fi! :us:

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more like it would ruin the already meager gold we are seeing for herb stacks :frowning_face:

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What part of multi-tap is so hard for you?

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tryna make a killing here and we need the prices top remain as high as possible :slightly_smiling_face: flying later, not now tho

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So in other words you didn’t like BC or WotLK? I mean vanilla servers are launching soon.

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doubling down by making pathfinder part two exacerbated things exponentially.

They lost tons of good will and trust. Neither of which are easy to regain and seldom to the degree before the betrayal.

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Golly gosh gee it couldn’t be that you’re cherry picking the wod sub numbers from the tail end of the expansion with one of the largest content gaps , the largest content gap of any expansion, and least engaging content of any expansion, while also comparing it to catas high of 12m rather than its low? While also not mentioning wod sub numbers were higher at launch? Just to validate your point?

Perhaps people quit because the design of most of the content was garbage, class design was lame, and there was nothing to do outside of afk in your garrison which was also not fun, and the only content post spamming heroic dungeons was one of two raid tiers for an ENTIRE EXPANSION.

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I would even be ok with gating it behind doing all quests and discovering all areas on ONE character in the current xpac. This is insane though and obviously the majority don’t like the decisions they have made with regard to flying.

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Exalted multiple times with every faction… seen and done the same stupid dailies hundreds of times . There is no reason we are not flying in BFA now… haven’t we got enough immersion ?

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I wish flying was removed from the game, but I will tolerate in its current gated form.

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Pathfinder is great but being gated is no great. Please stop doing this, Blizz.

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Anything that denies players instant gratification is “Blizzard’s worst decision ever” according to the forums.

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I love pathfinder more and more due to threads like this. All the salt and tears because they can’t fly right at max level. It is amusing how dependent people are about flying in this game. They act like they can’t do anything without it. The best is a lot of these people also play other mmos like GW2 and ESO which has 0 flying but they are okay with that there.

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Both of the games you mentioned have portal/teleport systems in place all over their respective worlds. In fact I think every MMO out there today has a better flight/portal system that not only DOESN’T make the world feel smaller but improves the player experience significantly.

Pathfinder doesn’t make the game better, it just forces players to play the game how Blizzard determines it should be.

The fact that you’re commenting on systems in games you have never played shows that no matter what you’ll back Blizzard’s decision due to some sort of Stockholm syndrome. You have a lot invested into the game and refuse to see the other side of the argument.

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I hate World Quests. But I found I hate World Quests less when I can fly to them.

I wish I had flying in BFA so I’d actually do World Quests.

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People who think gated flying is the reason sub numbers dropped are quaint little blueberry muffins.

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I actually like getting flying on one character that applies to all. If they just made Pathfinder Part 1 that was able to be completed at launch, it would be fine. Pathfinder Part 2 months and months later is overkill, and the devs know it.

I guess gold isn’t too much of a problem now, but some of my alts on some servers are kind of poor.

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One could argue that allowing flying in the first place was their worst decision. Had they not done that, all of this wouldn’t have mattered. That being said, I am a fan of flying. One of the many things I advocate are:

Each account has to have one character/toon “earn” flying (aka Pathfinder in the first release (aka 7.0, 8.0, etc…)) then each subsequent alternate character/toon could just outright buy it for in game gold - 5k/10k/25k what ever. Having to wait until 2 or 3 patches later is a bit brutal.

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I agree that gating flying was a poor decision, because I believe they should have stuck to their guns and kept it out of current content entirely.

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AGREED!! This all the way. Pathfinder is the sole reason (under the current game state) that I’m going to stop playing as soon as my Legion gold stash runs out and the game is no longer essentially free.

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