As someone who is: An adult, a dad, a Husband, in the Marine Corps Active Duty, AND working a 40 hour a week side job delivering pizzas…
We don’t need RDF. If i cant find a dungeon because i dont have free time thats on me. As you said. Im not 14 anymore. But ill be damned if I complain to get it added to ruin someone elses gameplay just to further benefit myself. I legit only can play Tuesdays and Thursday after MC, Maybe monday Wednesday and Friday during lunch for an hour since kids at daycare and wifes at work. And saturday and sunday morning before 1700. But Tuesdays, Thursdays and the Weekend doesnt even account for being a father so that times cut in half especially when im on the couch watching disney with my daughter or playing make believe kitchen. I lay all of this out, on a world of warcraft forum thread, not for any type of reaction to my home life, but to show that what YOU have going on, doesn’t justify adding a dumb feature into the game that takes social interaction out, makes leveling far to easy (we all know its rfd till last 10 levels and giving you blues like it’s candy. Go ahead and tell me im wrong). So before we start the pity train of im a dad, as an excuse as to why we need RFD…dont.
ON THAT NOTE. no disrespect towards you, being a parent and working and throwing in gaming. Its tough. I get it. Im there. I just hate seeing people use it as an excuse.
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You act like LFG doesn’t work and if you’re a tank you should have no problem forming a group. Learn how to manage your time wisely or play a different game. I see a lot of gamer dads that don’t have this problem and if they time sink is an issue to them, then they just quit.
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Amen. Time management is key, and if you dont have that kinda time anymore…still try to enjoy what you have. Or find a new game. Sorry, but…its truth. Mmos are not meant to be one pump chumps that you finish in a day, just sitting spamming RFD till 70
Have you played TBC classic lately? I don’t know what kind of social experiences you have with PUG 5 mans, but I usually don’t even get responses to half the things I say. There is no need to communicate in 5 mans. I have however only really joined 3 groups from 1-65 on my mage because it isn’t worth my time to form/find a group for dungeons. I’ll check the LFG tool when I have quests for a dungeon and check the LFG channel, but it rarely results in me actually joining a group.
The last dungeon I did was hellfire ramparts which we 4 manned when our other mage disconnected after the first boss. It wasn’t worth our time to go find another DPS so we just 4 manned it. With RDF we would have replaced him instantly and had a smoother run. RDF would absolutely be a helpful tool that I would use every time I log on. RDF is not a dumb feature and it sure doesn’t remove what tiny social experience is left in the game. All it does is save you time and give you more options when finding a group.
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But again. Its not just about the social aspect, had you read my reply.
It
-puts players in cities from 1-70 queuing
-expedites leveling to a ridiculous degree. A player who spams rfd can hit 70 in a day. 2 tops. I know. I was there when it came out.
-the rewards outweigh any gear you can get questing or dungeons. The sacks that provide nothing but amazing blue pieces. Like…what? You support that?
Maybe down the line I’d support them. I grew to like the RFD tool in Wrath. but thats because I already had a level 70 main. It helped with alts. What your talking about is implementing it day 1. Yeah those fresh wipe servers? Throw that idea in the garbage. Guilds will be level 70, profiting majorily, turning that into the AH to level their professions they neglected and butchering the economy on day 2. Day 3 at the latest.
The people that argue it JUST BECAUSE of the social aspect, thats not the ONLY reason people dont want it. But if you think thats the only reason then you’re just as ignorant to the fact as they are.
Yeah I read your whole life story and I know what you do every day of the week.
You can do the same thing with the LFG channel if you wanted to. Nothing about the current system makes it so you need to leave the main city to form a group. If you are queueing as DPS and not also questing you are absolutely wasting your own time.
Maybe you’re thinking of 300% exp with RaF? I was there at the time also as we’ve established we’re old we played back in the day. Definitely took longer than a day to level. If you want to slow down your leveling process though you can absolutely choose not to queue into RDF.
Do you accept that heirloom gear is in wrath? You think the little off pieces from satchels are the problem when it comes to gearing up alts? You think that hurts low level itemization?
Would you be inclined to support RDF if it were only possible to queue into it after you have a character to level 80 so everyone leveling alts can use it? Or just releasing it at a later date? How about making it only a feature for levels 15-70 and not WoTLK dungeons?
I would absolutley be inclied to support it at a later date. Thats common ground we can actually talk on. I would say after 80 but…i dont know. Kind of rubs me the wrong way. But down the line into Wrath classic? Oh for sure. So what gets lost in translation for me is not that i HATE RFD. Its what RFD brings to the table. Yes you can do LFG all day in cities to. But RFD streamlines it an makes it easy. But what gets lost in translation is that…I actually enjoyed the feature after I got use to it. But that was because I had multiple level 70s, went through 2 expansions on those characters. I suppose my argument more so stems for the fresh servers. Honestly? I wouldn’t mind it being out right away for the NON fresh wipe servers. But thats just me. At that point you went through two expansions…why not right?
Right, I’m leveling my 3rd character through outlands right now during joyous journey then I’m leveling a DK when prepatch hits. RDF would definitely make my life easier and leveling less of a drag. It would just help break up the monotony of doing the same quests over and over if I could mix dungeons into that seamlessly. I get how it would kind of ruin fresh servers. The idea of fresh servers was ruined for me when they said eventually you could possibly transfer to those servers. When they allow transfers people will just transfer over a million golds worth of rare items/consumes and rule over those fresh servers instantly. You also would be competing cross server in battlegrounds against the mega server GDKP people.
In your instance i agree. I more so mean my argument to be geared towards fresh servers…but yeah the transfers being Later down the road kinda does kill the appeal for me, but im still on the train
So much vitriol, this community has so much smoke for each other.
I only have enough time to be a solo queuing BG hero.
So Im a solo player doing BGs for my kicks and giggles.
No one will be impressed that I finally got all my marks for my red pvp horsie but damn did it feel pretty swell to replace my AV wolf on the hotbar with my horsie.
If you only compare yourself to yourself then you’d be surprised by how much fun you can have and how the littlest things make it worth it.
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Do you not see the like ratios of people for and against? The number of people on here asking for RDF, the number of players in game who talk about wanting RDF.
I don’t see anyone in game saying RDF is bad or we shouldnt have it when it’s brought up in Chat Channels.
The ones against are a very loud very small minority trying to impose their will on a majority of players who want RDF
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No you’re not and yes we do.
Ah yes telling people what they should and shouldn’t do. Historically that’s been a wonderful experience… You’re the peoples champion eh?
Says who? You? You get to decide exactly how people want to enjoy this game? Just because you want to min/max the game in every aspect and grind for endless amount of hours doesn’t mean everyone else does.
Gatekeeping at it’s finest.
Weren’t you #nochanges? Removing RDF is #changes, therefore RDF should exist as it existed in WoTLK.
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It’s not Blizzard’s fault you had a baby. You could have gotten snipped.
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You Don’t Want it, I Do! You can stop talking like you speak for everyone.
Since you don’t have much time to invest, retail sounds a product you might consider
Time investment isn’t the issue, time wasted is the issue. The tool existed in wotlk for a reason. Leveling alts is a big part of WoTLK. RDF helped improve that experience by not making you level alone doing the same quests over again. Instead you level in what some might call a group. I know that is a hard concept for you to grasp, easily accessible group content in a multiplayer game.
When they inevitably do add the RDF tool are you going to use it or are you going to be like the amish people who ride in a horse buggy watching the cars fly past you? Do you use electricity in your house or does that kill the excitement of lighting candles so you can see at night?
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You need a good guild that’s active when you can play. You don’t need rdf
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