i like casinos in games, sounds like you are just against gambling period
they could do it in such a way that you cannot convert to gold or real money. they could make it not tied to gold at all
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It’s also addictive and for every 10 people who can enjoy a bit of a flutter there’s some guy who gambles away his kids on a competitive eating contest or something. Encouraging those habits is really dangerous.
Yeah, because it’s a predatory, toxic industry.
But it still forms habits.
games still do it, its not like they need your approval
had lots of fun in casinos in games like Final Fantasy and dragon warrior, and a little in borderlands
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We’re talking about in game items… not real money. Old Republic slot machines give coins you can trade in for mounts, pets and cosmetics. They sometimes drop those things too.
I don’t see anyone complaining they’ve got an addiction to this holiday when it pops up once a year.
The “link” is tokens. To get gold little johnny or jane sneaks the parents Credit card out to buy tokens to get gold.
A weak link imo. That comes down to parenting.
I already told my boy if he sees a dollar on my desk I won’t go ballistic if it comes up missing. I’d be upset he stole it but not nuclear over it since he could jsut ask for it. And maybe do a chore finally to rate it lol.
so for now he goes hey dad that dollars been there a while…and I go yeah so’s that pile of crap i told you to pick up. Fix the one thing the dollar is all yours.
Now he also knows if he hits the wallet for the credit card for something stupid on his iPad games…there will be hell to pay.
No, but in a thread about the inclusion of it as a feature I’m giving my opinion on it?
I’m aware, but when you expose people to the sensation of gambling it can mix itself in with the little electrical tweaks that cause the problems that lead on to real gambling.
All the loot box stuff in the last few years have resulted in the number of children who have gambling problems quadrupling. In a recent study it was found that there was a correlation between the amount of money people spent on loot boxes and their chances of being a problem gambler.
thats their problem, games are violent too. not for young children
It’s not just children, although WoW is rated as Teen for people 13+. It’s a risk factor for everyone.
I think if gold wasn’t tied to a real world cash value it wouldn’t be looked at all that hard.
who cares? gambling exists else where, it would be fine in wow too
its not limited to just dark corners of the world, its in games like final fantasy and dragon warrior and borderlands
they would just have to make a currency that isnt tied to gold.
You don’t need to involve gold or tokens at all.
Blizzard already gets bad headlines over loot boxes in their games like Overwatch being considered gambling. Some countries have banned the game entirely due to this. Blizzard is not going to destroy a 15 year old game on purpose by making such a change, especially when the presence of gambling would be irrefutable.
This spans many countries and in Some of those countries state and provencal laws. Its not a blanket “Its not against the law”. It never is that easy when you work with Tyrants like China, the Over protective helicopter mom that is Australia and the censorship trigger happy nations in the EU.
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I guess. I don’t really know the specifics of world politics. All I know is gambling in games got some politicians and moms all riled up this year and now entire countries are trying to regulate the industry. I think it’s stupid.
Having a rating of mature and above is bad because it will legalize real money gambling and p2win is expected.
Good, I can only imagine what else good would come to the game if they could stop worrying about keeping this game rated T for teens.
No, because of the real world money value of Wow gold.
That translates to gambling in game, being like real world gambling. So it is sketchy, being frowned upon. I don’t think there is any law against it, but Blizzard would not do it because of their self-policing.
I seem to remember EQ doing this, over 15 years ago before I never played it again. They had the same issue in that, that “gold” gambling would translate to real life gambling. So they had an in game form of currency to gamble with, only for that purpose. Then you could only win/buy in game things with that currency.
Wow could do something like that.
Ah, found it:
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=2675
Kings Court Casino is in Shadowhaven on the way to Paludal Caverns (from Nexus).
The golden saucer in FFXIV is similar, in game currency only for in game stuff/no translation to real world cash value.
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Gold_Saucer
Players will be able to earn tokens called Manderville Gold Saucer Points by participating in Gold Saucer activities. These tokens cannot be traded or sold, but they can be exchanged for Gold Saucer specific [rewards]
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Gold_Saucer#Rewards
I don’t think FFXIV is “M”, because of the “gambling” being included. As long as it is in game as a separate non-gold currency, for that purpose only, so it could not translate to real world cash, it is fine.
(Me, can only log in Classic Character/forum loggin messed up right now. So DON’T LOG OUT!)
How would you earn it? Would it be something you could pay someone else to do?
Be kind of neat to see a gambling hall get put in only for the game to be shut down completely for legal reasons. The fireworks from that would be quite amusing.
Probably not with how heavily regulated by many governments it is and that it would probably require WoW’s rating to change.
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