The damage difference is that big compared to TG?
I play with some warriors and from what Iâve heard that it hasnât been competitive for quite a while.
Yeah I wouldnât care if it was 1 or 2 percent, but from my own playing around its more like 5-8%
Granted Iâm a filthy casual, but that makes me think the gap would prob be smaller for myself than the min/maxers.
Frost DKs have different builds to support the 2H vs dual wield playstyle. Fury largely does not change between how 1H vs 2H weapons with just 1H being objectively some level of weaker.
Also UNLIKE frost DKs, warriors absolutely get to pick a loot spec thatâll guarantee weapon drops match what they are chasing. Smart fury warriors will run arms loot spec since arms only wants to use 2H weapons and is eligible for all the same trinkets as fury whileâŠâuniqueâ (aka dumb) SMF warriors can set loot spec to prot to at least only get 1H weapons (though run the risk of getting defensive tank trinkets which supremely suck even for actual tanks).
Frost DKâs can only guarantee 2H weapons via unholy but have no way to aim for 1H weapons DESPITE it being largely determined that 2H frost is the inferior playstyle to dual wield.
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TG will always be better. The weapon damage stat alone makes a massive difference. The primary stats being the next massive difference. A 2 hander will always have more stats, therefore will always be better.
There was like a week in Cataclysm where it was grossly OP. It got fixed pretty fast and TG became the norm.
There is literally zero change, other than a wasted point into the SMF talent. Same stats, rotation, talent builds, etc. SMF just does less damage.
Make it a transmog option and delete the talent. Everyone wins, no more SMF complaint threads.
Win - Win.
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As a smf fury war player⊠I donât understand it.
Its always a tough choice what talent to leave out to take smf. No idea if it is in fact an oversight or not that they made it baseline for frost dk and not fury.
Coming from a 2h frost DK and TG fury warrior perspective, I want SMF baseline like frost DK MotFW. Let fury warriors choose which weapon type they want to use without having to sacrifice a talent point. I will always want to have a 2h weapon equipped as frost (I hate dw 1h weapons; there are literally zero 1h weapons that I like) and want warriors who prefer SMF to have the same opportunity to equip and effectively use their preferred weapons baseline.
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Yes.
Howâd you get 2 big 1-handers 
Because players said they wanted SMF back.
Fury Warrior is one of the best feeling Melee classes to play. It plays smooth. The abilities feel impactful. The CDs feel good when you press them. The rotation and priority is fun. There are compelling talent choices and hero talent choices. It is a really fun spec to play.
The only problems are tuning. target cap, and how some abilities function dealing damage to better compensate. The problem is that, when Fury is Strong in a Niche, it is literally way ahead at the top of the pack by a large margin. Fury also starts expansions very strong, so often it gets nerfs. Then it spends the last 2 patches languishing.
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Outside of recklessness I couldnât disagree more. None of the others really have any oomph to them, roar especially.
Just make the talent passive and FIX IT so that itâs actually a difference LIKE IT USED TO BE and does just as well.
Iâm tired of being told to use dual 2h weapons. That is not how Fury began and I want back what I had in the early days when the choice was ours and difference in damage was minimal, while offering two different playstyles.
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That would require an entire rework. You canât compare it to Vanilla, TG wasnât around. There was never a time when the two were balanced.
If they buffed it a little to make OH also act like a MH, it would be amazing. Otherwise useless
They could just buff the SMF talent to make it increase your damage more than it already does to make it competitive, and even have it buff your stamina a bit.
By the way, you can change your Loot Spec to Arms, and you wonât get 1h as loot anymore, from Vault or Bosses.
So what youâre asking for is for 1h weapons to be the same as 2h weapons? They literally just need to make it a transmog option, and all these SMF cry babies will be happy.
I think another problem is that 2H options are flat out more expensive. Two Sparks, twice the Conquest and the token only covers one. You are competing with many either way but for 2hers you still need two over the others.
Itâs way easier to build for any other class in the game except TG Fury. If TG is the ârightâ way to play, I think this needs addressed.
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Because Fury used to be dual welding 2 Handed Weapons only spec, SMF was added later. I absolutely love SMF because of the speed and mobility, especially in PvP. When your expected to be tough & slow, not tough and fast 
Huh? I have no problem only being able to mog 1 handed weapons in SMF only. TG Fury warriors enchant to get your attack speed up is all I can suggest. If you specced your SMF build correctly your damage output will be the same as TG build. 2handed to 1 handed is purely aesthetic