Fun Suckers

[Travia-blackwater-raiders]

Please provide a source to what you are even referencing. I have no idea what the heck your chinese gold farmers have to do with anything and given your posts in this thread I am really doubtful you are even interpreting what they did say correctly.

[Nomorelevels-shadowsong (Nomorelevels)]

Wow… I need sleep.

I switched the ‘F’ and the ‘S’ in your title and dropped my water bottle.

[Dæmonic-herod]

I thought Asmon liked SL?

[Venomclawz-benediction]

@Baridorielor-malfurion

Well what’s the evidence here?

It’s business 101. Share driven companies spend inordinate amount of time brainstorming revenue creation.

[Venomclawz-benediction]

@Baridorielor-malfurion

… Every single decision??

I feel you can’t see the light because you are hell bent on your own beliefs. It is what it is.

[Madgoat-eonar]

@Venomclawz-benediction

@Baridorielor-malfurion

… Every single decision??

I feel you can’t see the light because you are hell bent on your own beliefs. It is what it is.

nah… he posts defending the Developers, either he is family or maybe one of the Developers himself

[Baridorielor-malfurion (Baridorielor)]

@Venomclawz-benediction

It’s business 101.

I was asking for actual evidence on your claim on Blizzard are designing a game to time gate us to slow down progression, not “oh it’s just business 101 guys!” … I’m asking you to point the evidence here, and not use this “Oh it’s just X guys” copout sort of answer.

If you asked me how’s the sky is blue, and i said “It’s common science”, is that real evidence?

@Venomclawz-benediction

I feel you can’t see the light because you are hell bent on your own beliefs.

I asked that more in confusion with some doubt then outright implying your wrong for saying that. What do you mean every single decision that Activision made hasn’t been to make the game better? Are their no decisions that activision made that made the game better ever, if were being honest here? I mean doesn’t the software input ban got people celebrating that, that didn’t make the game better in their minds? Or what about Transmog? Exile’s reach to teach new players who never touched a video game? What about Character Customization’s? Or adding new classes that’s a fan favorite for quite sometime, like DH’s and DK’s? Or make the questing flow better so you won’t have to grind mobs all day to grind for XP like you did in Vanilla? Or made it where other people don’t steal your tags as easily?

How’s asking that is me being hellbent on my beliefs?

@Madgoat-eonar

nah… he posts defending the Developers,

Except i’m not defending the developers. Where in my comments is defending the developers? How is any of my comments is defending the developers? Really, tell me, point to me and explain to me, because i don’t know how my comments can be construed as that. Is it because i disagreed with you and asked you to back up what your saying?

It’s very telling of one’s character how intentionally divisive and how you don’t want to create a dialect where you have to lie about another person like that and categorize that person as X all because they disagreed with you, or even asked you a question. You two should really stop trying to imply i’m pro-Activision Blizzard here.

And you still haven’t answered this comment here.

@Baridorielor-malfurion

@Madgoat-eonar

Blizzard did not listen to the masses

Okay, but the game is still going.

Plus, didn’t Blizzard listened to the masses to release WoD Early? I mean didn’t a lot of people, the ones that pay $17 a month and $45 per expansion?

I mean you said the game is dying because Blizzard doesn’t listen to the masses, well didn’t they did and the game took a huge nose dive in the subs because of that then?

@Madgoat-eonar

Wow tokens are inconsequential

Well if you introduce a way to buy gametime with gold, it does get confusing on who’s paying with gold and who’s paying with money. I guess Blizzard doesn’t want to create two sepperate sheets on that.

@Madgoat-eonar

and were only introduced to hide the fact that Blizzard was selling gold to third party vendors. Chinese farmers were a lie!

(Evidence to suggest Chinese farmers were a lie and Blizzard selling gold to thrid party vendors?)

[Venomclawz-benediction]

You’re clearly triggered and unwilling to face hard facts. Mission accomplished.

[Baridorielor-malfurion (Baridorielor)]

@Venomclawz-benediction

You’re clearly triggered

I was gonna say you don’t know what the word triggered means, but i’l be wrong considering you’ve done nothing but attack my character by saying “i can’t see the light” and calling me “triggered” because i asked you to back up your claims of “facts” with creditable evidence like statistics and so on.

If your gonna respond to my comment any further, actually respond with something substantive like giving me actual creditable evidence to your “facts”. Here’s the comment to re-read again and try responding me again after you give it a good read here instead of doing character attacks.

@Baridorielor-malfurion

@Venomclawz-benediction

It’s business 101.

I was asking for actual evidence on your claim on Blizzard are designing a game to time gate us to slow down progression, not “oh it’s just business 101 guys!” … I’m asking you to point the evidence here, and not use this “Oh it’s just X guys” copout sort of answer.

If you asked me how’s the sky is blue, and i said “It’s common science”, is that real evidence?

@Venomclawz-benediction

I feel you can’t see the light because you are hell bent on your own beliefs.

I asked that more in confusion with some doubt then outright implying your wrong for saying that. What do you mean every single decision that Activision made hasn’t been to make the game better? Are their no decisions that activision made that made the game better ever, if were being honest here? I mean doesn’t the software input ban got people celebrating that, that didn’t make the game better in their minds? Or what about Transmog? Exile’s reach to teach new players who never touched a video game? What about Character Customization’s? Or adding new classes that’s a fan favorite for quite sometime, like DH’s and DK’s? Or make the questing flow better so you won’t have to grind mobs all day to grind for XP like you did in Vanilla? Or made it where other people don’t steal your tags as easily?

[Zayn-wyrmrest-accord]

Remember when they decided to nerf the XP from the Pre-Legion events and there was a huge outcry and we had to twist their arms and assail them on all social media platforms to put the fun back into the event because people stopped doing it? I remember.

[Baridorielor-malfurion (Baridorielor)]

I don’t really think it’s a great idea to judge pre-patch event’s fun on “how much XP were getting per hour?”.

Not to pull a strawman here, but i feel like it needed to said here, because if that’s the only way to have fun, Blizzard would just have a small field of infinity quick respawning boars that gives 10 times the normal XP for a pre-patch. And i don’t know about you, but 10 weeks, 10 days, 10 hours or 10 minutes to 1-50, killing boars all days just to grind levels isn’t my idea of fun. Maybe it is to somebody else, who knows?

But personally, i believe the majority (take that with the grain of sand you can) wants quality content made and not just something that makes you level up fast in one day. Sure, their not mutually exclusive, and it’s a nice bonus, but it can’t be a replacement of quality content. Kinda what i’ve been saying with Leveling for now. I want more things to do while leveling or to level up from, more leveling content, not quicker leveling.

[Venomclawz-benediction]

@Baridorielor-malfurion

you’ve done nothing but attack my character by saying “i can’t see the light”

This is clearly not attack. It’s just my personal observation. This is exactly why I say you’re triggered. You’ve got some higher emotions on this topic and we can leave it at that.

[Baridorielor-malfurion (Baridorielor)]

@Venomclawz-benediction

This is clearly not attack.

Then why you say “I don’t see the light” and “i’m hellbent with my beliefs” then to my responses if your trying to excuse them? Why then you say them then? Just saying “It’s my personal observation” (ala “it’s just an opinion bro!” card) doesn’t protect you from criticism. Infact, it more or less comes off as an excuse saying what you’ve said few or so comments back is “personal observation”. Infact, why your just answering to this comment? It’s honestly telling when you take a look at that comment and just answered that along with the “you’re triggered”.

I asked you many times to back up what you claimed to be facts with creditable sources like statistics and such. Why are you still avoiding to do this? Because right now, you’re not making any points, your just calling me triggered, as if that’s a point.

@Venomclawz-benediction

This is exactly why I say you’re triggered.

And this is exactly why i say you are being intentionally divisive and have no interest in creating a dialect or even facts for the matter and why i tell you to stop implying that i’m pro-AB here.

Oh, no offense, it’s just my personal observation. I’m not using that to excuse what i just said, it’s just my personal observation, it’s just my personal observation, it’s just my personal observation. /s

@Venomclawz-benediction

You’ve got some higher emotions–

And you’re still avoiding my comments just to hurl more character attacks by implying i’m emotional , or just saying “i’m triggered” instead of actually backing up your claims with creditable evidence or even wanting an interest to have a civil dialog…

Oh, no offense, it’s just my personal observation. Gee, i wonder how many things i can use to excuse it with. /s

/Takes the “it’s just my personal observation” defense and puts it in the trash bin.

Now here’s my comment again. It is short, so it’s easy to read. I added stuff in parentheses here to better explain here. Please read at your own leisure.

@Baridorielor-malfurion

@Venomclawz-benediction

Bologna! Devs are designing a game to time gate us to slow down progression,

Well what’s the (creditable) evidence (statistics or sources) here?

(I’m asking you to back that claim up with creditable evidence, a source saying that the devs are doing exactly that, and not just a subjective take like a lot of other people do with saying “Those devs are doing it for time-played metrics!”…)

@Venomclawz-benediction

lets face it if elitists see end game content 25 days after launch they get antsy and move to another game.

That is their well within their right to do so. You can’t stop people from going to other games.

(Meaning it’s gonna happen no matter what really. If they get bored, it wouldn’t matter a bit for them if they completed how much of the game or the content, they will just move on. I also need citation that if an elitist see end game content 25 days after launch, they will move to another game.)

@Venomclawz-benediction

I f you look at every single decision Blizz has made since Activision tool over it hasn’t been to make the game better

… Every single decision??

(You’re gonna have to give me evidence on how every single decision Blizz made since Activision joined hasn’t made the game better.)

[Venomclawz-benediction]

I will let you be right for the first time in your life for a change. Merry Christmas and may god bless you. Sending you hugs a prayers now.

[Baridorielor-malfurion (Baridorielor)]

@Venomclawz-benediction

I will let you be right —

I don’t want you to “let me be right”, i wanted you to have a dialect with me, to back up your claims. Let me repeat that. To back up your claims Do you not understand what i’ve just said multiple times by now or is it too you “i want you to Back up your claims” means “i’m wrong”? Am i speaking to you in a different language here? Are you able to comprehend what i’ve just said here and previously?

Right now your doing everything in your power to avoid doing that when you’ve been asked multiple times. I understand why now you called me triggered, because apparently asking you to back up the claims, triggered you to a point where you are still pulling the “U mad bro” card and trying to pass yourself off as innocent when it just comes across as trolling, regardless how innocent your trying to play off as, provided also the fact your responses to me has nothing substantive to work with. You want proof? I’m reading another one right now and i quoted it. I yet to see you back up your “fact” with creditable evidence, i’m starting to think you don’t have any facts to begin with so you just resorted to insults/character attacks.

“Oh but it’s not character attacks or insults it’s–” There’s a reason why i put your “it’s just my personal observation” in the trash bin and i hope you can understand why.

Now please try to read my comment here again and give me an actual response when your done reading. It’s really not that hard to come up with an actual response.

@Baridorielor-malfurion

@Venomclawz-benediction

Bologna! Devs are designing a game to time gate us to slow down progression,

Well what’s the (creditable) evidence (statistics or sources) here?

(I’m asking you to back that claim up with creditable evidence, a source saying that the devs are doing exactly that, and not just a subjective take like a lot of other people do with saying “Those devs are doing it for time-played metrics!”…)

@Venomclawz-benediction

lets face it if elitists see end game content 25 days after launch they get antsy and move to another game.

That is their well within their right to do so. You can’t stop people from going to other games.

(Meaning it’s gonna happen no matter what really. If they get bored, it wouldn’t matter a bit for them if they completed how much of the game or the content, they will just move on. I also need citation that if an elitist see end game content 25 days after launch, they will move to another game.)

@Venomclawz-benediction

I f you look at every single decision Blizz has made since Activision tool over it hasn’t been to make the game better

… Every single decision??

(You’re gonna have to give me evidence on how every single decision Blizz made since Activision joined hasn’t made the game better.)

[Unrelenting-bleeding-hollow]

@Madgoat-eonar

What about multiboxing, as long as they were getting paid subscriptions they loved it, now they ban people for it! Not that I approve of multiboxing, only upset because Blizzard’s stance on multiboxing was based on their ability to make more money because they had a lax policy.

I multi-box every single day, I just don’t use key replicating software.

[Venomclawz-benediction]

TL;DR. Too triggered you are.

[Venomclawz-benediction]

@Madgoat-eonar

You take the much liked options from people that write your paycheck, they will just stop buying your product AGAIN!

But blizzard have decided to employ a multi pronged approach to revenue acquisition. They don’t really care about subscriptions now, they make 1000x more cash in token sales because people use tokens to gear themselves now.

[Baridorielor-malfurion (Baridorielor)]

@Venomclawz-benediction

Too triggered you are.

…Now were speaking like Yoda?

Yoda “Hmm, confused this youngling is, keeps on calling people triggered he have. Actual arguments he avoids. Mind is clouded by the dark side, a path of a Sith. Hmm… hehehehe…”

_{I know that’s a terrible Yoda impression.}

At this point Vemonclaw, you’re acting silly and i’m convinced you actually think what i’ve asked of you multiple times is a foreign concept to you and all your gonna say is “i’m triggred” over and over and over again. In the wise words of Obi-Wan Kenobi since were on the topic of Star Wars…

[Aldrasta-azgalor]

@Madgoat-eonar

Way back, they took away world PVP, until recently, it has been nothing but a memory.

Lets be honest, you must have played on a PvE or dead server if you really believe this.

@Madgoat-eonar

They took twinking, no longer can you hang at a level and get the best gear for the bracket, you are forced to level or PVP compete in an empty bracket you will never get any RBG’s in.

Twinking ruined the leveling experience for just about every PvPer who wanted to level up while having fun. I understood why people enjoyed it but I can see why they removed it.

@Madgoat-eonar

Over and over, they deny us flight, now they deny ground mounts too!!

They want you to play teh game and experience it the way it was meant to be played before you’re aloud to zoom around and skip 90% of the content.

@Madgoat-eonar

What about multiboxing, as long as they were getting paid subscriptions they loved it, now they ban people for it! Not that I approve of multiboxing, only upset because Blizzard’s stance on multiboxing was based on their ability to make more money because they had a lax policy.

Go find some other game to p2w.

@Madgoat-eonar

Now the latest and most oppressive, you cannot powerlevel!

Leveling is faster than it has ever been, I have no idea what you’re talking about.

@Madgoat-eonar

Is this what Blizzard has to do all day, find people having fun in their game and find a way to ruin the game?

Activision-Blizzard only does what it does to make money. This should not come as a surprise to anyone whose played the game for at least 2 expansions.