Frost mage F tier after reset

This is the internet, dont make me post the theory “no girls on the internet” I rather not crush some dreams

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If addons are a requirement, then maybe they should be baseline. The fact that your suggestions come down to “Get these specific addons” is funny to me given people in this game will sit and say addons are not required.

Skirms. and the only PvE piece is the cloak and a ring until someone crafts mine, so my vers is 29% in PvP combat.

There’s more than just 3’s, you don’t always have a healer or a way to stop a mage.

Basically all of your stuff posted thus far is anecdotal, ironically.

Another assumption from you of which specs. (I was outlaw)

3 more assumptions, none of which would apply in this situation. Also none of which you can do while in CC.

the only thing getting crushed is ur hands when I press bladestorm

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Take it up with blizzard. I aint blizzard.

Yes in 3s or shuffle you absolutetly do.

No one cares about 2s or skirms.

Preemptive manuevers is a what 60% damage reduction, your gonna tell me with a straight face you got hit by an ability that averages 1.5-1.9 mil for nearly 3 mil each THROUGH A 60% WALL?? so he was actually hitting you for many multiple times the average?? Through a wall???

Math aint mathin.

There is a reason you are the rating you are across multiple characters and it has nothing to do with other specs in game but solely your own gameplay. Give skillcapped a try and maybe pick up an mmo mouse and work on your keybinds to up your reaction time.

Playing with no addons and not understanding a huge portion of the game is going to be a huge setback for improvement.

Maybe you don’t, but they’re in the game just like anything else.

‘an additional 15% while stunned’ is the quote. So it would be the baseline 20% from Elusiveness.

Maybe because you’re not the one that should be mathin, unless Dragon’s Breath is now a Stun (It acts like one, given half the time it doesn’t break on damage)

Partially, but also partially because this games MMR and ‘ranking’ system as well as allowing what’s cheating in every other single game where people of higher rank play against people of lower rank all the time. The amount of times I face elite/Glad/top ranked players even in 2’s when in RIVAL is bad. Simple.

Then have the game teach you or a community willing to actually teach outside of “Hey go grab addons lol” or telling people it’s their issue for dying while in CC even if they ‘use a defensive’ before the 2nd CC. Maybe make trinkets keep you out of CC for a bit or just reduce damage taken while in CC by a ton more.

This coming from a pally is kinda funny, ngl.

its 40% for sub/assa my mistake your outlaw so its 15%.

so 35% wall on outlaw taking more then double the average dam for an ability thru a 35% wall

I’d love to a see screenshot of that if u got one.

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If a Ret yolo’s bubble as a trinket they are gonna die unless it’s like minutes 3+ shuffle and everyone is 10%. See Frost Mages block cc all the time even in AWC games.

Tbh I meant more in the context of holy pal to save a teammate, but ret can do it too. Nothing more annoying in a close game when you -finally- are killing the warrior/hunter and have the ret crossed with no trinket for him to be able to bubble LoH or bubble bop.

Not saying that doesn’t open up the ret to death, but sometimes that shifts the momentum so much.

OK yeah in that context I agree but that to me is a game saving use of it even if the Ret themselves isn’t dying. Thought you were saying Rets bubble searing glare to keep doing damage like I’ve seen mages and rogues do (cloak).

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WHILE STUNNED. Are you saying dragon’s breath counts as a stun or? It would be 20% outside of a stun (Baseline elusiveness)

Combat log doesn’t go back far enough for me to see it, and I don’t think you can recap death to see what killed you prior deaths.

YES I am still learning rogue, YES there will be plenty of times where I can do more to not die. But there are plenty of times where I sit CC and just melt without a recourse which feels awful when trying to learn. Skirmishes feel so bad because of so many classes that can just melt you while you’re in CC or they’re immune.

The amount of rogues I’ve seen trinket cloak/evasion my axe toss after I stun them on their opener is infuriating lol

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Idk, I’ll yank your weapon like soap on a rope. We’ll see how you do with hands :imp:

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:c

Not in arena you didn’t, stop lying.

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Kinda did, sorry apparently you two can’t figure out basic math

Got a screenshot?

Do you, or a source that says ‘mages scorch can never hit over 2.5m’ for some reason? Combat logs go by too fast to keep record of, but you’re free to spam queue skirms until you get a fire mage yourself

Or I can just log on mine and see if they mimic that, or get setback to hit me.

Just did one shuffle and blitz on my lil frost mage. Came here to see everyones thoughts… :melting_face:

It’s awful. I get it’s the first week, but… yikes. Also, just melting to everything.

I like to take it slow and let things happen naturally.

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