This is the third time I have come back for an expansion. And the third time the devs have neutered mage specs. These changes are bad. Between frost and fire, mages are going to have a hard time getting into pugs. Again.
These changes are bad and unwarranted. Ray of frost having two charges is fantastic and great for frost fire. There is absolutely no reason to take away the glacial spike opener. Let us have good things for once.
Iâve been playing mage since Legion. I think frost currently feels more fun from pull to pull than any mage spec in a long time. I can hit a fun button every pull instead of waiting for cooldowns and itâs very enjoyable. These changes remove the fun. Please donât take away the fun buttons.
And I thought they ruined it for 12.0⌠holy moley.
Lest we forget: It can always get worse.
Pretty poor mentality to have when youâre addressing undesired changes towards a game that you both have to pay for the product and pay monthly to login.
For PvP, well just have to go in and hunt for a precog for 10sec so our one dps cd a min isnt kicked. Then wait a minute and do it again, guess we can orb and lance for 5k a gcd for 55 sec in between goes. If we never land a precog, our damage will be 25% of other dps. Maybe if they restore icy dloes function with it, or alter, ray alter not canceling liek it was in WW.
In 2 dps 2âs, glacial spike isnt even a spell anymore for us, take it off our castbars, games dont last the 30-45sec it will take to get 5 icicles. It only hits for 70k, not sure why that even had to make this change.
I canât believe they remove Slow so the only way to play Mage in world content is to play Frost (only spec with kite now), then make Frostfire so ridiculously bad that there is only 1 choice for Hero (Spellslinger). THEN decide theyâre going to not only make the only viable world-content spec for an entire class un-fun on purpose, but also make Frostfire somehow WORSE at the same time.
Genius move. 200 IQ moment.
Please do not change frost itâs actually fun and these changes would make it boring. first time ever making a forum post hoping you donât ruin the specs enjoyment
we better not lose all our icicles when we use Invis and get out of combat, sure we donât due to 60s thing.
There being 0 changes to Frost in the upcoming balance tuning on 17th of March makes the PTR changes even more baffling.
You can try but you wonât get any refund. Even if you sue blizzard you are r getting a penny back. If they offer refunds just coz you donât like the changes they apply to your spec than 99.999999999999999999999999% of wow players can also get a refund as well.
I am saying this should become the standard. 15 years ago, Pokemon Go changed how you tracked Pokemon. Apple refunded Every. Single. Purchase. you made from Pokemon Go within the last 18 months because of it.
We need to stop being okay with the bait âthese specs got reworked and will be fun!â just to get a month or two in, the specs get dumpstered and youâre out your TIME AND MONEY.
i just donât understand how the max rank of an apex talent is going to be rendered into something so worthless when on my mm hunter it literally makes every aimed shot crit, like whatâs the purpose of the apex talent at that point?
Valid argument. The apex talent will be quite underwhelming indeed.
If the initial changes to Frost werenât bad enough, I just start getting used to this gimped spec and then you gimp it more. A long channeled spell is not good anyway in WoW, but now if that channel is interrupted somehow you have no backup second charge.
Also, on the GS thing, I get why people were having trouble finding the spell but this is a hammer solution when a precision screwdriver was needed. Please donât let these changes go live.
Iâm with you, deciding to remove the second charge will make frost feel so much worse. Now back to playing do i hold it or not game. It was fun to just let it rip whenever you felt knowing you had another one coming. It doesnât even do a ton or damage its just used to generate a class resource. Plus PvE world content will go sooo much slower as your ability to generate freezing is perfect by so much. It is insane and will feel horrible.
So the reason for the horrendous Glacial Spike change is because⌠people canât find Frostbolt/Frostfire Bolt?! Huh? What?
How about just separate the two spells like it used to be?
These changes are terrible. Frost finally feels like it is in a good place, and this just nerfs it into the ground. Come on Blizzard, there is no need to kill a spec that finally feels good.
Iâm glad I held out purchasing a 6 month sub being I have a few days left on my currnet sub. These changes are absolutely asinine in thought/execution and make zero sense. I mean seriously, the devs are changing the spec this significantly all because of a spellbook icon???
âBasically, we donât want you playing Demonologyâ â Ion (Celestelon)
Literally did that on a stream at one point with Lore looking dumbfounded. They do this sometimes.
Also, They pushed this addon thing when it seemed right, but they werenât prepared IMO. Itâs screwed up so much on the balance of things. I just hope it can sort out a bit before the raid tier, or at least the second one. 
Ya, I came back TO play Frostfire and this is enough for me to cancel my sub once again and leave with the regret of spending money on Blizzard again.