Frost 2h 2% buff

Classes Death Knight
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One of these things are not like the other.

You’re just a hypocrite caught with your pants down. Props for doubling down, though.

If majority of the people here are crusading against you, maybe look more towards yourself and less at me. I did not rally anyone against you, you did a great enough job yourself.

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Hear me out on this one… how about our abilities not diminish in numbers upon going into arena?? Thatd be dope… you know a frostwyrm doing full damage, deathstrike actually being relevant, and idk maybe a 8% baseline like fury warriors are getting? Cause frost strike is a joke but only damage outside of obliterate we have

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Who do you think you are, Mistcaller? :^)

EDIT: Trying to lighten up the mood btw.

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No fooling you :fairy:‍♀

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I can hear her voice in my head now.

Thanks Xino.

EDIT: At least her voice is better than Magni.

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Woonz, champ’n

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-Sprays Caargon with Water-

No.

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Azeroth needs ya, Champ’n!

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Yeah, let it die. There is no point in putting so much time and effort into something that is flawed from the start unless you are going to implement it properly from the start.

And its not a majority, its 3 people and they only show up when I post.

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Lemme guess

I must…

… KILL

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Not a gimmick a play style that many liked that has been with the spec since the beginning of Wraith when they came out.
You could DW as unholy at one point why not make that the DW spec hey blood was a 2H dps spec as well but they got rid of it.
People saying let it die lol your right kill DW off so there is only 2 H for DK problem solved.

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Its not a playstyle in itself if it plays exactly like DW would. You dont need a 2h to have that playstyle. Just like in wrath the DW and 2h playstyle for Frost werent any different. They were only different when they forced that on the spec and it was a detriment to the spec.

There were 2 frost playstyles after the spec was finalized, with Plague Strike and without Plague Strike. With Plague Strike did more damage overall, without just made the rotation easier. That is it. In cata masterfrost was showing its head but it wasnt worth the risk to actually play it. MoP/WoD happened is when DW was actually changed and people didnt like it and Masterfrost was killed going into Legion bringing it more in line with what it was.

Frost is a DW spec with 2h attached with band aids. That is what it is, and what it was from Wrath - WoD.

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2% is def not enough, however instead of adding a flat dmg buff they should give us KM procs increase! that would be a real fix.
Also 2h oblit has atrocious aoe. Something is missing from the kit.
Frost scythe base line is needed. i would also add execute to frost strike. lets say 50% more dmg to target below 30% health.

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2H is way way better in arenas but Unholy is actually better in BGs than Frost

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If only blizzard liked dks enough to give us any form of execute for frost

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We already knew it wasnt going to amount to anything.

Frost itself has problems, and those are amplified to 2h. If Blizzard wants to try to close the DW and 2h gap…there needs to be more than a simple % buff (well atleast not below 5%).

2% could be noticeable, but on a class like Frost Death Knight it might not ultimately matter towards PvE nor PvP.

The spec just needs buffs overall, and it may seem like Blizz may be afraid to give them with Unholy still ever dominant (which usually means they have no plans to cripple the spec so far).

Lets be real: 2h buffs dont matter at this point. Frost itself needs buffs.

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Hear me out

  1. make obliterate only cost 1 rune
  2. baseline 5% ability damage increase
  3. frost strike cost 15 runic power (or keep it as it is but make it same damage as obliterate)
  4. wraith walk baseline on a 45 second cd
  5. make pillar of frost a 30 second cd
  6. addition of a frost version of execute that costs 40 runic power per use and hitting the exact same as warriors execute, then allow KM to actually proc as a free execute (on a 50% reduced chance from current KM procs, then also change the talent to have a 50% chance to proc an execute instead of 100% during pillar of frost) instead of a guarenteed crit on obliterate

#makefrostgreatatpvpagain

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Moving this here from my post. I think some of these huge suggestions are great. However, many are probably a bit unrealistic right now. I think while providing feedback on how to improve the spec it may benefit the community more to focus on Band-Aids versus reconstructive surgery. That being said some significant tweaks do need to be made. It would be much easier for Blizzard to return abilities that we either previously had or are in the game in one form or another and they have the coding for while tweaking numbers versus doing a full rework.

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pof 20 sec yes

they seem to like making HB puny. they have been nerfing it for years
which has the nickname among the player base as howling blarg/bleh

SR or merciless combat or summon big ice chunk to chuck at people on the 35 row.

4 interesting idea

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Yep Frost needs a 10% buff to even be in the same room as UH. Just look at the leader boards… Not a single Frost Dk in top 100 in mythic…not one. Its not just 2h its the overall damage. The last round of nerfs put the spec in the basement while classes like Balance/Shadow/Ret get to face roll everything.

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