Fresh TBC is the best option

Hello everyone, Vanilla WoW - Wrath player here. Did TBC Content 10x on different private servers.

TBC will be quite different than Fresh Classic because of the following:

Everyone has full knowledge of how and what to prepare to maximize efficiency as soon as they step into Outland. It’s not the knowledge of what’s coming that’s the issue, it’s the egregious amount of gold being transferable that will severely impact the economy and experience of TBC. Not only gold but hoards of mats and resources prepped for professions among other things that will again severely impact the overall journey through Outland content.

In original TBC there was definitely gold being transferred BUT nothing remotely comparable to what’s happening now coupled with no one having any idea of which resources would be relevant for TBC progression. Not to mention the amount of gold selling botters who can just roll over into TBC which is another layer of significant impact.

Fresh is the best way to counter these real issues that make it fair, balanced, and most authentic.

Please Blizzard, make several new servers available upon launch even if you decide to force current servers to progress into TBC. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

Edit - I’d like to add that having both options available upon launch: forced progression into TBC for existing servers AND adding several new servers, was what they implemented for the original launch of TBC.

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I’m glad someone here gets it. There’s not too many people here who advocate for BOTH types of servers. People tend to argue that it MUST be ONE or the OTHER. Either continuation into TBC or fresh.

When I voted I opted for classic to transition thru into TBC, but after a few months of redo my vote to TBC only servers with premade 58s.

So it erases the bot fest and gold buying of classic.

Classic has become a pure pay to win game.

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There’s possibly a chance we will see a fresh server or two that won’t have transferred ability.

TBC is still far off possibly 2nd Quarter or so. You still have every chance to reach 60 and prepare for your epic flying only you are holding yourself back

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I don’t know about that. We’d be going 1-60 in content we’ve all done before, and losing the progress on our characters. The option for a fresh start should be there, but not mandatory.

I think we should restart, with premade level 58s

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What do we carry over? What about the people who are rocking BiS? The gold they’ve earned? The consumables? The materials? The titles?

Should they just lose it all because other players don’t feel like it’s fair, even though they had the same opportunities?

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Thanks for the update Big Ben.

If people didnt know this after playing Classic not sure what they expected.

I refer you to the post you’re replying to: “Please Blizzard, make several new servers available upon launch even if you decide to force current servers to progress into TBC.”

I was replying to the person saying we should just restart, Blizzard’s forums just hate quotes right after the post.

And you think it’s fair that bots are going to have over 100,000 gold going into a new expansion?

No one’s really worried about the average player bringing over stuff it’s all the bots and gold buyers.

I just saw a DFT go for 20,000 gold I’m sure that warrior farmed crystals for that gold right? No way he he would buy gold.

My reasoning is more for resetting the economy.

Why would anybody care about classic titles they mean nothing

No it won’t.

Progressing directly from Classic Vanilla to Classic TBC would be the most authentic because that’s the way it was done originally.

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Seems to me the opposite is true. The vast majority of posters are fine with simply having an option for their preference.

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No, but that’s pretty minor all things considered compared to all the things players have spent countless hours getting - Scarab Lord and R14 in particular.

He could have bought gold, but it’s very possible that he made it other ways. Many players have Mage alts that they can AoE farm with, and also sell boosts, which are quite lucrative.

This won’t matter as the same thing will happen in TBC anyway.

I imagine you didn’t get Scarab Lord nor R14.

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Do you honestly think if people had figured out how to do this the first time around, they would have just gone “Nah, THAT wouldn’t be fair.”

HA! You don’t know people very well. They would have taken ANY advantage they could have gotten, including amassing huge amounts of gold like that.

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Most of the people who got scarab lord did it on servers that held the gates, my server alone has over 100 scarab lords.

Rank 14 is a feat that shows how long you sat in your chair, not a definition of anything that shows skill.

Boosters are typically gold buyers.

Seller
Buyer
Gdkp to spread gold out
Booster from people who got gold from buyers.
Back to seller.

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This would be hard to pull off but if at all possible I think the best solution would be to keep our characters but create a limit on goods you can have going through the portal. Raw gold, and put a gold equivalency to high cost items like a flask is worth 150g, black lotus worth 100, mooncloth worth 15g. If you have more than a set cap (let’s say like 10k gold) you can’t enter. Sounds like something that can be exploited and worked around but it would help when compared to doing nothing. I wouldn’t be 100% opposed to a fresh start but I worked hard to get rank 13 on two guys mainly for the title

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Cool. Doesn’t change the fact they spent a long time grinding. Doesn’t mean that they don’t deserve to keep it.

Nice theories, but this isn’t entirely true. I know several in my guild alone who made all their gold legitimately and still use GDKP to make gold. They go there, put in their minimum, don’t bid on anything (as they’re largely BiS) and take home some gold - more if a high value item drops.

Again, this sounds like you were lazy and didn’t really feel like earning anything (and it’s probably not entirely wrong if I’m just judging your character’s avatar) and don’t think those that did don’t deserve to keep it.

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Not from my experience.

Usually you get someone with no posts coming here and advocating for “I want fresh servers!” and that’s it.

However, that’s not even CLOSE to “authentic”. That’s some PServer nonsense and they think Blizz will accommodate them.

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Then why did they implement new servers during the original launch? I personally rolled on a new server when TBC launched. I’m advising for BOTH avenues, why are people constantly saying one or the other, they had BOTH during OG TBC.