Fresh Start Servers?

Yeah. I am in my late thirties so I remember when WC2 launched in a big box with a CD and booklet with illustrations by Samwise.

I was there for both launches. The “Classic” Vanilla we just endured was decent until GDKPs totally took over everything. Bots, RMTs…all in a gold laundering circle.

As of February, I believe Bli$$ said there was no “current” limit to the gold allowed to be transferred. 200K amounts being moved are not out of the question, and GDKP moguls will have that and 200K more in their bags. I don’t recall any ceiling being announced.

Don’t you worry. People max out on tokens in retail. ActiBli$$ion isn’t hurting at all.

I figure the least ActiBli$$ion could do is throw out a few fresh servers.

Realistically, it probably took all of two engineers to make the mount and two toys. We have to pay a sub anyway, so it is a touch dishonest to call the 30 days “free.” I have time already. For that $70.00, I could buy Resident Evil, Cyberpunk, you name it, and get bonuses (Res Evil is offering Res Evil 7 for “free” in a package)…

$70.00 isn’t a good deal for a “Deluxe Edition” to an old game that had mostly physical collector’s items and old-looking pets when you could buy a AAA game with yet another AAA game for free. If it was in the game once it should be in it again. If not, this new mount looks like it popped right out of retail.

RAF happened three months prior to Wrath and would be appropriate then. All for it.

WoW lasts longer, but each Xpac still has an end boss. How long will players honestly be killing KT over and over?

Even WoW has its replay limits. Thus it needs its expansion packs. I believe this was WoW’s first and best expansion pack, and worth a replay. Fresh is the closest to “pure” I have come across, “pure” being the pipe dream.

I agree, the long-term matters too, but there are only so many phase releases and its game over. KJ down. I would like to experience the game with nothing extra tied to it, and this will probably be our only “true” (remains to be seen) TBC replay.

KT’s death came quick. Looking back, GDKPs were in over-abundance and world buffs consumed far too much time.

Thanks for the reply. :slight_smile:

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FYI you can’t boost Blood Elves and Draenei.

The point is Blizz is just full of :poop:. Nothing they say makes sense. There’s no consistency to anything.

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Better tell them to start leveling now. And if the answer is “theyre playing shaman/paladin” Then they should say TY to blizzard for giving them 2 weeks that they didnt give them back in the day

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I’ll never understand the people acting like it’s such a financial hardship for Blizzard/Activision to release a server or two. I mean, aren’t they like a multi billion dollar company?

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I would pay for a $59.99 “Dark Portal Pass” that let me roll on a fresh server instead of boosting a character on a ruined one. If Blizzard wants to monetize returning / new players they can still do that with fresh servers. The paid boost is an awful idea. MOST of those boosts will be used by botters and people with a line of 60s for farming / profession mules.

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So? My BE didn’t get to start till release day.

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Yes jay thats what its coming 2

Why dont you just walk down the hall and ask a higher up?
Oh wait you’ve known for awhile… nvm.

Stay classy jay

Dont worry jay. after your “team” gets replaced you can worry bout other things…

you played in vanilla jay? that’s awesome… why do you want to kill it tho?

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Why though?

A billion dollar corporation that doesn’t answer to very popular topics of making a few servers for people who would even pay for a clean start with some policing of bots / RMTs as they once did. They could do this no problem.

I still don’t understand why people defend ActiBli$$ion. They simply are a billion dollar corp, and they still charge a sub when many MMOs do not.

Point well made.

Awaiting blue post on fresh servers still…

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Because they get paid to.

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Yup, still hoping for a fresh start server with no cash shop options. It wouldn’t hurt anything as the players that roll on it weren’t likely to buy that stuff anyways.

I am also fairly certain that when people come in to play TBC that didn’t play classic the current state of the servers will drive many of them away.

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Why is it that “fresh” server people always resent people who are good at making gold?

THere is a big difference between someone good at making gold and someone good at buying gold.

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Most “fresh” server people don’t make the distinction, they just resent anyone with gold.

I’m pretty sure you are underestimating the demand considering how private server players would flock to fresh servers especially if they didn’t have characters on established servers. I know these aren’t private servers but the main reason we have Classic AT ALL is because of private servers showing Blizzard that there is a demand. Do you remember when Blizzard underestimated the demand for these servers by a lot and they more than doubled the number of initial servers? It won’t be near as big as for private servers because it won’t have the bandwagon effect, but I’d say it would be worth it for them to have 2 fresh servers for each region with one being PvE and the other being PvP.

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And those someones who buy gold are actively involved in the money laundering, hot potato of: Bots–>RMTs–>GDKPs. I know too many guild GDKPs and dedicated communities / Discords who regularly run people who openly admit that they purchase gold online. So many names I could toss under the bus. I know about how this laundering works because of all of the GDKPs I have attended.

The foreign online gold sellers are thriving. It isn’t about people having gold, but where that gold is coming from. Eventually the gold from GDKPs makes its way back to the botter sources, who sell it, buy more accounts, and wait (almost instantly) for the trickle down of a higher amount of gold.

GDKPs, apparently innocent or not, still screwed Classic’s economy over badly. There is always someone (mostly RMTs) willing to throw copious amounts of gold out. Even ZG idols can go for hefty amounts. Oh what I have seen in AQ40 and Naxx…

And people are going to transfer all that gold to TBC servers.*

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Agreed 100%. Nuff said.

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So stop crying and report them.

Sadly fresh servers would only delay the problem because GDKPs will be the standard several months after release. Loot might be more generously given in raids but arena teams will be pressured to spend in GDKPs for the choice pieces like weapons. This is because PvP gear is MUCH MUCH HARDER to get than raiding gear with the absurd rating requirements.

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This is why I have generally supported, as a purist, a close to original emulated game. I understand it won’t be perfect. We need GMs desperately in the form they used to exist.

Reports don’t do much even I were to make reports. There ARE so many GDKPs, bots etc.

GMs once answered your ticket in-game. They could absolutely implement them again.