We aren’t even checking if the souls we are saving are good guys or not. We are just grabbing whatever is closest to Venari’s sex pad.
Shouldn’t we be slightly concerned given that the arbiter only broke like… a year ago? Are we freeing Ultra Hitler?
I had this thought once too…I’m hoping that the worst souls are made into the Jailers soldiers, and the “good” souls are the ones being tortured because he can’t use them to make new forces, just suck the power from them.
Also, I love how everyone has just accepted that Venari’s place is just a bachelorette pad for her.
You aren’t freeing them so much as allowing the souls to go through normal “processing”. Souls are, from what I gather, going straight to the maw now, winding up in anima starvation across the other 4 zones.
We have no idea which souls went there before the arbiter broke though, and were thus correctly processed.
we use those souls to build our sanctum… somehow. So they’re just brick in the wall (literally)
Using the intro quests and the souls in Torghast as a measuring stick, we know that the longer a soul is in the Maw, the more fragmented and broken it becomes. Eventually, like the souls in Torghast, they break down to a point where the simply cease to exist and cannot be saved.
Using this knowledge we can use deduce that whole, unfractured souls floating around the maw are relatively recent additions. Can we be certain? No, but its a safe bet.
Eh, from what we’ve seen, souls that are hyper, absolute, 100% evil are RARE. The rightful population of the Maw is going to be a tiny, insignificant fraction of what’s going in there, aka absolutely everyone.
Kael’thas wasn’t Maw material, and he sold out his entire planet to the forces of omnicidal chaos.
Garrosh wasn’t Maw material, and he was a jingoist racist warmonger who sold out his race to the forces of omnicidal darkness.
Hell, even Arthas, the greatest single evil Azeroth has ever produced was depicted as maybe not being fit for the Maw…?
Rightful denizens of the Maw are obscenely rare. The reason why the Maw looks like it does is probably because the Jailer, until he broke Lady King Yemma, probably only had a relative handful of dudes to work with. Only the absolute worst, most irredeemable, creatures devoid of any moral capacity or value go to the Maw. You can be truly malicious, horrifyingly malevolent, and yet, if there’s even the tiniest sliver of a chance to repent, you go to Revendreth instead, and (in a working system) they’ll grind away everything but that sliver.
Compared to the number of beings who die (every living vulnerable mortal, and even some vulnerable immortals) the number of actual legitimate Maw denizens is so vanishingly small that it’s a non-issue.
Plus we do have “doomed” and “unworthy” souls shown in the background…I always assumed THESE were the souls which belonged there…and thus why we couldn’t rescue them.
How does a non-corporeal soul get trapped in a rock anyway? Lazy. Leave it there.
Maybe the rocks are Shungite
That’s not the questionable part. The questionable part is we then take those souls and turn them into bricks to make our teleporters and other buildings.
I think this would be a much more interesting topic.
Are we even really freeing them though ? we are taking them out of their existence in the maw, compressing them down into soul goo then fleeing back to our hideout in whatever zone, and smushing that soul goo into our conduit machine to fuel our powers further.
Now, I skipped this day of Villainy101 but, that sounds like some pretty bad guy stuff to me.
This isn’t what happens. If you watch as you turn in the weekly rescue souls quest, you are forced to free all of the souls out of your Soulkeeper into your covenant’s sanctum.
are they not the resource we use to swap conduits ?
Nope. The cast bar for the action upon quest turn-in even says “Freeing Souls” I believe.
Well, don’t I feel foolish? I was just going to Venari for Torghast upgrades.
oh sorry no I had it backwards we don’t use them for conduits, we use the souls for sanctum upgrades.
All evil souls go to Revendreth first, no matter what they did. No one goes directly from the Arbiter to the Maw. They’re given a final chance before that unpleasant fate and the venthyr make that call based on their progress.
But there would still be a fair amount in the Maw. Of an entire universe of souls over eons of history if even .00001% went to the Maw that still adds up to the sizeable army he has now.
And in the Runecarver cinematic the Jailer said he’s been stealing recipes and building his forces for quite a long time now.
Here’s to hoping our real live afterlife is this forgiving! ^^