I haven’t ever participated in M+ and so I can’t really give any suggestions. But I will say that the reason I haven’t ever participated is because I really really really do not want to go back to the days of manually putting a group together.
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hmm maybe I should of used quotation marks haha, I know many people who do M+ are actually very good at it. And I mean that as a genuine compliment.
i suck at wow LOL but i like doing dungeons and i like the challenge and i try my best i think the timer is the fun part and trying to improve
i mostly do them with my friends or chill people
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Sounds like the best way to do it, imo!
Cheers 
Also every time I tell people they are good at the game they always say “nah I suck at wow”, which always boggles my mind. I mean im a “filthy casual” I -am- bad at the game. If youre able to climb mythic+ youre way ahead. XD
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People who won’t touch M+ don’t do it for 1 of 2, maybe 3 main reasons.
- They are “solo” players that don’t do anything with groups (or at best LFR/heroics)
- They don’t like speed content
- They’ve tried M+ and found it to be a mixed bag of people being toxic since it’s zoomer type content and mistakes cause some people to freak out and groups to collapse to where your time is wasted after trying to do a few runs that fall apart.
You can’t bring in the first group of players, and if you want to bring the second or third group in you have to reinvent or remove the timer aspect, which is a very controversial topic of the design of M+.
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With Gilded going back to 9+ in Midnight can’t wait for all the “How to fix M+” topics.
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For those who don’t do M+, what would you change to make it something you would do?
not a thing. they could give me a free pony with every queue and i still wouldn’t do it. but for the sake of participation, i say no timers. timers stress me out something fierce. 
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Where are all these horribly toxic people everyone talks about in m+? Where!?
As the average LFR or timewalking dungeon tends to have more people freaking out. The only times I really see people get frustrated is when folks who have done zero research turn up to keys, mess them up without announcing they’re new, then often get frustrated and quit.
Feels like it’s something people say happens way more than it actually does.
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the most toxic people in m+ have been low keys tbh
10+ are usually the chill people in my experience
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It’s true.
I’ll end up doing like 2 LFR runs per season and see way more toxicity there then any of the 50-100 keys I’ll run in a season.
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it’s a good way to start to get into them to at least try is finding a chill group or friends
honestly i think a lot of people who don’t try it are afraid of ~toxic people~
It’s true, personally I don’t like pugging for any content (unless its like a quick world boss or something). I also dont want to impede on people who might play the game differently from me. (lots of people play the numbers game and such (best spec, best this, best run), I dont). But id happily do M+ dungeons with friends and id probably learn a lot. I know I did when I played a season of them in DF. It’s was pretty eye opening.
If they remove trash kill count and just made it kill bosses then I would switch back to tanking them. The trash gathering is just boring, it’s not the route or whatever that’s the problem.
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What? You mean you don’t enjoy spending thirty minutes forming a group only to have two deaths on the first pull and have the key abandoned in less than five minutes?
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I just liked old, slow, methodical, dungeon crawls.
Something akin to megadungeons and 10-man raids.
A speedrun PvE mode does not interest me, nor does infinitely-scaling difficulty.
Both of those are why I don’t bother, and seem like something I’d see in Diablo rather than WoW (M+ is just Greater Rifts from Diablo 3, affixes and all.)
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i always use my own key and just put looking for chill ppl in my title xD
if my friends arent available
u can come with me on my 10 key
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I liked slow methodical dungeons too, but only if they actually dropped loot in the damn dungeon.
If they added slow dungeons today they would literally drop nothing, you’d get nothing for spending 2 hours inside a labyrinth.
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Ah, the highlight of M+. Feels even terrible when you’re playing off-meta applying for keys. 
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Have you done tavesh hardmode then?
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im just not interested in mythic +.