right, I’m sure they’ll add RSV right when they add glad warrior back, and pre void shadow, and legion demo, and combat rogue
That’s been a complaint since BfA, yeah, and previously only fixed by… making a new character and keeping the baseline (pre-SV/pre-spec) Kill Shot on your bars. I don’t think there’s even a work-around now, without being able to cast by spell ID.
If not for that, Coordinated Assault + Deadly Duo (+Birds of Prey, for AoE), would bring them noticeably closer (within 20% or so, instead of within 25% in sustain, and far more significant in burst), even if playing MSV from range still would be far from dps-competitive.
tl;dr: There should be no restriction on SV’s Kill Shot equipped weapon. Its change should be only to remove the former requirement of having a ranged weapon.
…Really, SV should just remove all such restrictions from formerly ranged attacks, even if that means adding a clause to talents like Ranger to make it instead only affect Arcane Shots from procs and/or with a ranged weapon equipped.
You say that like Tiefling archers somehow would never be a thing…
All of those have been popular requests but this is the hunter forum so I am keeping my requests to the hunter class
The game needs more dps physical range dam dps.
Rogue 4th spec as a gunner spec and dh as a run and gun bow third spec.
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youre cooking I agree
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Context: Beppels is a die-hard RSV who will never be satisfied until MSV is removed and uses RSV as a motivation, claiming everyone agrees with him and that RSV was the greatest spec to ever be created.
Is he seriously still harassing me after I blocked him? Isn’t this against the forums ToS?
err, yes it was. you not play shadowlands, then?
Being forced to play a spec, cause the other two are bad/undertuned does not make it “popular”, I should have clarified. Think there was some MDI commentary at the end of Shadowlands were they laughed that someone was playing BM lol.
I prefer marks, but BM currently performs better in M+ and most raid fights, so naturally I’m going to play BM.
SV is fun to play though, I will give it that.
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but it does tho. whether they enjoy the spec or not but play it regardless because it pumps OP numbers… like… they still add to the total number of players playing the spec. like… what? you think survival (which i’m sure you’re not biased against, at all!) is the first and only spec players swarmed to because it was absurdly OP for a tier? you new to wow overall, then? you think blizz doesn’t take it into account the hard stats of a spec grossly overrepresented due to being OP because they were ‘forced’ to play it?!
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SV was especially powerful in 9.2, though. It was the level of power difference BM had over the rest of the class in Ny’alotha; if anything, even worse. If BM or MM had that level of advantage over the rest of the class 98% of Hunters in M+ would have played it. Yet most Hunters opted to take a significant performance loss and play a ranged spec instead.
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i don’t have hard numbers because i haven’t dedicated the last ten years of my life to hating a spec in a video game and taking on such a sad and lost cause of trying to reconvert that spec in a subforum of that video game, so it’s purely anecdotal, but i recall shadowlands just crawling with melee survival hunters. whether bm and/or mm had better representation i don’t know, and it’s immaterial anyway. just because one spec in a class had more players playing it doesn’t mean another had little to none.
Yes, you’re remembering 9.2 when it was extremely overtuned.
It was actually the best of the 3 in 9.1 as well, but not by enough for people to switch.
If a spec needs to be that overtuned for anyone to play it, it’s a disliked spec. We can’t have a spec of any class just be perpetually overtuned to bribe people to play it.
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yes… that’s what i’m remembering. why are you pointing this out? it’s been established this is why survival had higher player representation. very much like your anti-survival posts on the hunter forums, this is redundant info now.
well then, dig up your chart in your terabytes large folder entitled ‘I HATE MELEE SURVIVAL SO DAMN MUCH I LET IT DESTROY MY LIFE!!!’ and let’s see the stats showing exactly which bm/mm hunters switched over to survival during this very patch. c’mon, post it!
i’d ask if you were new to wow overall too, but we all know the answer to that question. which means you’re just being ignorant to serve your sad sad cause. with this logic, every spec in the game at this point has been HiGhLy DiSLiKeD BuT iT wAs sO OP PeOpLe PLaYeD iT aNyWaY.
My stats are from raider IO which is common knowledge.
you’re making the claim, the burden of proof is on you. you said survival wasn’t ‘nearly OP’ enough for bm/mm players to switch, i want to see the proof. i want to see a list detailing how many hunters who played during that tier stayed on as mm or bm and refrained from playing survival even despite it being OP.
Like I said, check raider IO.
Those are the stats from the end of 9.2. That’s actually after SV was nerfed a couple times.
You can see that while SV is the most represented specs most of the class is still playing either ranged spec.
Above level 25 it’s all SV:
That emphasises the power difference. SV and Demo were required picks for any high level key.
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…so, what in the hell point are you trying to even make!? survival had the highest rep, according to the link you provided!! wait, are you combining both mm and bm to scrape up some more whining fodder that survival is sO DiSLiKeD??? lol, jesus. i’m not even going to dignify that with a response.
…anyway, i am NOT getting entangled in the weird weird world of bettles again. go harass starthistle some more. maybe it’ll get you the help you need, lol.
The point is that the only time SV ever saw high rep was when it was egregiously overpowered. That means Hunters avoid playing it unless they have to.
Here are the numbers for season 2, for example. SV was actually the best of the three in M+. It had the best survivability and damage, and it was the only one of the three to have unlimited uncapped AoE. Yet hardly anyone played it because it just wasn’t ahead by enough to be appealing.
You don’t see that sort of resistance to playing BM, and while you do see some resistance to playing MM it’s not nearly as much.
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you have no point, bettles. the underlying point is you desperately need some meaning in your life.
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