You can’t grief or zone disrupt while in War Mode…
Common Problems
- A player is camping me
- Keep being ganked and can’t play the game at all
- A player of the opposite faction is killing NPCs
The Game Master staff will not intervene in Player versus Player (PvP) disputes.
World of Warcraft
If you do not wish to engage in open world PvP combat in World of Warcraft, disable War Mode.
It’s NOW offically safe zone no more pvp
the ol “i just say it how it is” bit. classic.
more of you “being blunt” and not salt? k…
you were though. you were…
your argument is silly. people still WPvP…and die. ppl die for crates, the PvP quests and even still in ganks. your basically qq’n because of the ganks and not getting a chance to kill gankers… when you could also just bail on the gank the same way they do.
it doesn’t… but it also doesn’t matter. the situation is so niche it doesn’t matter as I stated just above this.
I made a general statement about ppl qq’n about something that isn’t a big deal and I stand by it… because it isn’t… oh wait… I mean “I’m just blunt. that isn’t an insult.”
Yeah? I do say it how it is, I’m blunt. It’s not the same thing as insulting
You trying to say I’m salty is just showing you’re being dismissive lol.
And your argument is starting to sound like someone who uses follower dungeon teleports themselves and doesn’t want it removed.
The way you keep downplaying it and saying it’s not a big deal makes it seem like you’ve got a personal stake in keeping the mechanic around.
Doesn’t change the fact that follower dungeon queues give people an easy out to avoid risks of WPvP entirely. And yes, risks. This isn’t how I perceive War Mode or my view of it, it’s how it’s designed. Guessing you’ve never heard of “risk vs reward”
“You can use it too” is a dumb excuse because if everyone started to abuse it, combat becomes meaningless because you can’t actually pin anyone down.
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Pretty much the end of argument right there. If it doesn’t improve War Mode and only serves to let people avoid fights, then it’s impact is purely negative.
Nice deflection. If you’re gonna insult people, at least own up to it.
If you don’t think it’s a big deal, that’s fine, but mocking others and calling them childish for caring about the game doesn’t make your point stronger—it just makes you look like you don’t have one.
LOL permaban? turn your warmode off dude. problem solved
sure sure.
sure sure.
my argument has never been anything other than it’'s not a big deal. you trying to make it somehting else to feel like you have a leg to stand on is a you thing.
and that still exists… you risk dying for crates, world quests, being ganked leveling ect ect… follower dungeons “somehting anyone can do” isn’t changing that.
again… for like the 4th time… people are still actively engaging in WPvP via crates, word quests etc etc…
things not enhancing your personal experience doesn’t mean anything… you’re putting a lot of stock on your personal feelings… and expecting the game to revolve aroudn them… grow up.
not for those using it.
I did? that’s me owning it… unlike you.
1st thing here… I never had a point other than it isn’t a big deal… which again… it isn’t. When a child acts like the world is ending because they got their phone taken away, or whatever do adults need to get on a high horse to tell others to respect the childs 1st world problem? no, right? Your argument is the child here.
Spoken like a true follower dungeon abuser. We get it dude, you use follower dungeons and you don’t want to enable War Mode without it. The fault is on Blizzard, not you. 
Being able to avoid a death whenever does change that. It removes the risk. We’ve been over this fam.
Didn’t say they weren’t. Not sure where you’re getting this notion that I said people aren’t doing this.
I said if people are abusing follower dungeons it removes the risk from War Mode. Outside of crates or world quests, people like to kill others and have organic WPvP fights. If a bounty is suddenly allowed to follower dungeon out before he dies, no one gets the bag. 
Didn’t say my personal experience. I said War Mode, y’know, as a whole. Follower dungeons certainly doesn’t enhance War Mode, you even admitted it yourself.
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Again, not talking about personal experiences here. Talking about War Mode as a whole. For those using it, they’re still negatively impacting War Mode lol.
You didn’t. You brushed it off as a “general statement”.
Asking for Blizzard to fix something isn’t being a child. No one here,besides maybe the OP who’s asking Blizzard to permaban the follower dungeon abusers/gankers, is being a child for simply asking them to fix something.
I’m detecting more sodium…
yes we have… your opinion on what warmode should be isn’t a concern of mine.
which isn’t a big deal.
doesn’t matter though… unless in your opinion it does… which is what we’re talking about… hmm…
according to you. which again… doesn’t matter.
it was a general statement. I didn’t name anyone other than OP which you also said was crying. Would you rather me say it differently? ok, I insulted babies crying about 1st world problems.
with everything else going on in the expac… all the bugs with the anniversary, MMR issues, botting, ect ect what you’re complaining about is a 1st world problem. My scenario about the child applies to your QQ.
I’m detecting a follower dungeon abuser. 
It isn’t my opinion of what War Mode should be, it’s what it is. Risk vs reward. It’s exactly why when one faction becomes the underdog and outnumbered, they get a higher War Mode bonus. Alliance in BfA had a 25% War Mode bonus and an “Against Overwhelming Odds” quest because the risk was greater for them. War Mode is a risk vs reward system, and when you remove the risk, it undermines the entire War Mode experience.
More dismissal. 
Its only negatively impacting War Mode, so, Blizzard should fix it. That’s all really.
Also according to you. You admitted yourself it doesn’t enhance War Mode. 
It’s just fact.
Make up your mind bro. You’re sounding like you got early onset dementia:
I’m not talking about you calling the OP a baby 
I’m talking about when we were discussing PvP rivalries and what not.
Weak take. By that logic, no one should give feedback unless it’s about the most critical bug in the game.
Players giving feedback about mechanics that hurt the game isn’t “QQ”—its how things are fixed. The only thing “QQ” is asking for someone to get banned for it.
yea, boy. lean into it. let it fuel you. anyway, I havent… yet. but if it’s in the game and allowed, I might at some point. knowing people like you are out there crying about it makes it more tempting though.
it is your opinion though… saying it isn’t doesn’t change that.
more sodium.
by negatively you mean not letting you retaliate. QQ
and that it doesn’t matter… let’s not forget that part… very important.
ooo definitely sodium in that deposit. And I did make up my mind? it was a general statement… that’s why no names were mentioned about it being sad.
refer to previous response ^
weaker then being unable to accept your “problem” isn;t that big a deal in the grand scheme of things? idk…
that and getting salty af about no1 caring about it. I’m playing the world’s smallest violin over here for ya, bro.
No one’s crying, just asking for Blizzard to fix it. The two are not the same. 
Fact does not equal opinion.
More dismissal.
By negatively I mean by removing risk from War Mode.
If it’s negatively impacting the game mode, then it does matter.
You’re saying it wasn’t an insult, then you said you owned up for the insult, back to it wasn’t an insult and is a general statement.
Are you locking in your answer? Or do you need to phone a friend?
Just a weak take in general. Your logic is no one should give feedback on things unless it’s about the most critical bug in the game.
Regardless whether you think it’s a big deal or not doesn’t really matter. It hurts War Mode, and eventually people are going to get fed up with it and not turn it on. Keyword: eventually.
If no one cared people wouldn’t be making threads about it as frequently as you’re seeing. Forums are a minority too funnily enough, if everyone used them I wonder what kinds of threads we’d see.
Warms my heart to know you took the time to learn a new instrument just for me. I didn’t realize I had such a dedicated fan. 
you are crying though. and your salt is proof of that.
correct. so stop using your opinion on what Blizzard wants/ doesn’t want.
more of your opinion. cool.
I know, buddy “they wont let me kill them back hrmmpf!!” … worlds smallest violin…
I said it was a general statement, which it is. take it how you want. I owned my words by saying I stand by them.
well, when a catastrophe happens… do people cry about their property damage over the lost homes of others? 1 is a 1st world problem, in comparison. The other isn’t. your “logic” is your 1st world problem should be brought up…and cried about over the bigger problems in the game. So again… worlds smallest violin.
this is a great example of my point about your little 1st world problem we have here. there’s nowhere near the amount of threads about this than there are of other, real problems. thanks for hurting your own case for me… much appreciated.
I got the feelings you needed to ehar it and I’m a nice guy… what can I say?
Asking for a fix isn’t crying.
Blizzard has said themselves it’s a risk vs reward system. That’s what Blizzard has said and what they want. The fact is they’ve fixed other methods of instantly escaping combat in the past and as of recent.
Dismissal.
Isn’t an opinion. It’s a fact.
Great glad we agree that it negatively impacts the game.
Oof, comparing in game bugs to real life disasters? 
Nah, your logic is people shouldn’t give feedback on anything unless it’s a critical bug. L take.
There’s quite a few of these actually, relative to when follower dungeons were implemented into the game.
You can say you want an autograph next time and I’ll just give it to you really. I don’t bite, don’t worry.
crying is crying though. which you’re doing.
yes yo usaid they said that in BfA… which was a long time ago and things change
noop.
ah, a strawman attempt. you have a bad habbit of trying to make your point out of context. it speaks to your desperation.
ah, dodging the analogy, eh? hurts your point too much? My point is your 1st world problem isn’t worth crying about. it’s not a big deal and your hrut feelings don’t change that.
not another 1 even on the 1st page… yea so many… yikes…
I don’t do it for that. I do it to ease the minds of salty WoW forum posters. you’re welcome, btw.
Crying is asking for people to get banned. You should go over to the bug report or suggestions forums, tell them they’re crying since that’s what it apparently is.
If things changed they would’ve got rid of the War Mode bonus. It still continues to fluctuate.
Dismissal.
fact.
dismissive ad hominem.
Nah, it’s just that it isn’t relevant. We’re talking about in game balance here not life or death scenarios. Just because there are bigger issues in the game doesn’t mean smaller ones should be ignored. Feedback isn’t a zero sum game where we can only care about the “biggest” bugs. If something is bad for the gamew it’s worth pointing out whether you think it’s a big deal or not.
Do a search.
I do it so that my dedicated fans don’t have to go through the trouble of doing things like learning an instrument for me. 
Your time is important friend. I’ll give you an autograph next time.
calling for bans isn’t the only thing that defines crying… what?
because some things are the same, doesn’t mean all things are the same.
noop
do you even know what that means? I’m guessing not, since you’re strawmanning again.
shattering your fantasy isn’t relevant? oof…
but it does mean they’re not a big deal and you shouldn’t expect anything done about them.
I did before posting that comment. this is getting embarrassing for you.
k
Y’all need lives.
I didn’t say it was — I’m saying in this context of the thread, it is crying. Asking for something to be fixed isn’t. Saying, “Blizzard should fix this issue because it’s damaging to War Mode” is just giving a suggestion.
The risk vs. reward is the same, and we’re talking about risk here. It’s the same as it was back then and they even expanded about it since then too.
Dismissal
Fact.
Of course, I wouldn’t say it if I didn’t know what it meant. I don’t understand how I’m straw manning, but all you’re doing is deflecting.
I said follower dungeons are negatively impacting War Mode, which is why it matters. All you had to say to that was:
You’re deflecting. You’re not addressing the substance of my argument, instead you’re trying to dismiss it as me being salty. You’re undermining the person rather than engaging with the actual points raised.
It’s not shattering any fantasy. You’re comparing life and death scenarios to in game bugs that can be fixed.
That’s a defeatist attitude. Your logic is nothing but the biggest problems should ever be addressed. Smaller issues still matter because they impact the overall player experience. Ignoring them is how games lose quality over time. Maybe you’re okay with settling for mediocrity, but I’d rather see the game improve in all areas—not just the ones you think are worth Blizzards time.
“follower dungeon abuse”
Just search that up. I mean this is a relatively new development. It was released middle of last expansion and these forums a minority lol. Many PvPers complain about it.
Luckily today is a lazy day for me. All my college assignments are done and there’s not much to do today.
apparently it’s not… or you wouldn’t be crying about it still.
gonna stop responding to both of these.
then tell me how I’m attacking your character and not focusing on how your point just doesn’t matter? which is what ad hominem is. I’ve acknowledged your opinion on why it doesn’t matters and slaughtered it with 2 different analogies that you tried to avoid.
it doesn’t matter though… and I’m not sure why you’re so determined I care that you think it does?
I addressed it multiple times… finally boiling it down to your crying isn’t deflecting… you trying to focus on anything but the fact I proved it isn’t vie anologies you tried to dodge would be deflecting… so…?
I’m showing you the some things matter and some don’t… what you hink matters in this case…doesn’t.
more ironic deflecting. you QQ is not important. sorry, it’s just not.
blizzards time would be better spent fixing larger problems… as that is more important to the overall player experience. you’re check mating yourself again. your QQ doesn’t matter.
yea, in comparison to all the other threads it’s insignificant… you’re giving yourself another L here, pal.
Are Abråms and Troolys just alts talking to each other?